Lisbon Treaty Debate (Part 2)

Ireland 24th September 2009

Playlist - http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CAC9704EF22AF4B

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On the YES Side:

Micheal Martin - Fianna Fail Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Marian Harkin - Former Independent politician and current MEP (Minister of the European Parliament) for Ireland North West.

Micheal O'Leary - Chief Executive of RyanAir.

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On the NO side:

Joe Higgins - Irish Socialist Party politician and current MEP for Dublin. Represented Dublin West in Dail Eireann (1997 to 2007).

Patricia McKenna - Peoples Movement, Irish independent politician and former MEP for Dublin (1994 - 2004)

Declan Ganley - Leader of Libertas, former CEO and current Chairman of Rivada Networks

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Debate chaired by Matt Cooper (T.V. and Radio Presenter and Journalist)

Approximate Duration of Debate: 1 hour 35 Minutes




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STILL UNDECIDED?

1. There was an entertaining and insightful 'Lisbon Special Debate' (which was, dare I say, significantly more insightful then the one posted here) on the Pat Kenny radio show on the 29th September, set in and around the bustling atmosphere of Arnotts on Henry Street, Dublin.

The link is below:

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/todaywithpatkenny/

In attendance were Minister Micheál Martin, Libertas' Declan Ganley, Sinn Féin's Mary Lou McDonald, MEP Mairead McGuinness, MEP Joe Higgins, former President of the European Parliament Pat Cox, Coir's Manus McMenamin, Olive Braiden of Women for Europe, musician Jim Corr, ex-Irish rugby international Denis Hickie, artist Robert Ballagh, Labour TD Pat Rabitte, politician Patricia McKenna, journalist Eamon Dunphy, MEP Jan Peter Bonde, businessman Bill Cullen, Farmers for No representative James Reynolds and IFA President Padraig Walshe.

2. The current issue of Village Magazine (issue 6 - Spetember issue), the magazine created by journalist and 'no time for BS/grumpy old sod' Vincent Browne. It contains a number of balanced articles on the Lisbon Treaty, as well as a 16 page special pamphlet arguing for YES and NO sides individually (Yes side written by Donal Barrington and No side written by Joe Higgins)

3. In keeping with Vincent Browne, there will also be a discussion on the Lisbon Treaty on 'Tonight with Vincent Browne', on Wednesday the 30th September on TV3 at 11.05pm. This is my own opinion only, but I think it will be worth watching if you are an undecided voter.

4. There is a debate available between Proinsias De Rossa and Joe Higgins, which forgoes much of the bluster and grandstanding of this debate (its not as loud anyway), and can be found at the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzZsKGPt7Qw

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[warequalsnofuture]

so sad

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Why did they vote yes?

Have the ppl really voted YES or have THEY

manipulated the elections maybe?

[EuropesHope]

YES vote = no way back, we can't undo mistakes made in the treaty or the EU, our say in EU is halved. Some countries say is doubled.

NO vote = we are still in the EU, like we are now, and the EU must be more accountable to the people of Europe. It stops the runaway power of the EU parliament and its gravy train expenses.

The mature thing is to stand up and tell EU to correct the problems, not to give in to the accusing tut-tutting of EU politicians trying to tell us we should be embarrassed.

[hydra8888]

I'm with the Irish! Vote no on October 2nd.

[Spenner56]

"In the guise of reform,this treaty will give significant new powers to the EU over almost all aspects of our lives,with a concomitant reduction in Ireland's voting strength and sovereign power .Most frightening of all however is the obscene militarisation of the EU" (Catheline Connolly).

" The Lisbon treaty will lead to a burocratic dictatorship" (Prof.Schachtschneider, Nurenberg University).

WAKE UP BRAVE IRISH !

YES to Europe,NO to the Lisbon treaty/constitution !

[urfadder]

NO SIDE: Shinners, Ganley, McKenna, Socialists, Coir, Eirigi, UKIP, Le Pen, BNP.

YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.

Who you going to trust?

[lisbonslayer]

WHAT GHOULS O LEARY AND MARTIN ARE

40 years in Europe and 30 years in recession and 10 in a false economy, O MORE OF THE SAME PLEASE :)):)) VOTE NO TO LIS/CON 2

[celtsbhoy88]

mic o'leary is a elitest scumbag. how can anyone take this scumbag serious.