Helmut Lachenmann - Ein Kinderspiel Part 1/3

Turkish pianist Seda Röder performs Helmut Lachenmann, Ein Kinderspiel (A Children's Play). See http://www.sedaroeder.com for more information. Please subscribe to Seda's channel (yellow button above), there are more videos on the way!

This video was recorded at the Goethe Institut Boston: http://www.goethe.de/ins/us/bos/acv/mus/2008/en3745240v.htm

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[sedaroeder]

Thank you all for your nice words! Seda

[sedaroeder]

Vielen Dank!:-)

[sedaroeder]

Ja, das stimmt! :-)

[sonicpsychiatry]

Stick to listening to Mozart, wearing a wig and dressing in tights. This is modern classical music. If you don't like it, don't listen to it!

[musicusblau]

Ein sehr interessantes Stück und hervorragend gespielt!

[chizulch4]

@aculturemind On the contrary.

[aculturemind]

@chizulch4

Okay, so you're having a 'yuk-yuk' fest.

[chizulch4]

@aculturemind Are you using the word "fun" in its perogative sense or it's interrogative sense? If the former, then you must pay attention , if the latter , then there is every reason to believe that you have failed to grasp the meaning of the opening problem.

[aculturemind]

@chizulch4

Are you having fun? In case you actually meant what you wrote...I'll spell it out for you: analytic truths can be proven; empirical truths (experiences) can *only* be confirmed. Prove = absolute; confirm = damn likely.

So. You may have the tools to assess the quality of something. (Most don't have them/their tools ain't very good.)

Aside from this, there is 'preference'.

[chizulch4]

@aculturemind I apologise. Now i see what you mean: you are saying that the quality of a work of art can never be confirmed by verification, let alone your subjective mind, regardless of how it coincides with the quality of your standpoint.

[aculturemind]

@chizulch4

No, doofus, it can *only* be confirmed. Pay attention, yo.

[chizulch4]

@aculturemind So the quality of a work of art can never be confirmed?

[daniel15671]

@chizulch4

I was letting you know the basis for my judgements about Lachenmann's music, not making personal statements or assumptions about you. It is my judgement that Lachenmann's work is a valid musical statement for the reasons I gave. It is neither important nor unimportant to the discussion whether you or I are knowledgeable about 20th century music in general. Since we are both extremely knowledgeable, however, we have no need to make statements about each other. :)

[aculturemind]

@chizulch4

You missed the point. Your knowledge of something is outside of his mind/empirical (even though it is in your mind), hence can only be *confirmed*.

In any case, both of you (though I think less, him) are arguing from a personal standpoint. How you feel about the music - which may coincide with, yet does not verify, let alone determine, the quality of a thing.

[chizulch4]

@daniel15671 Thank you for the information on Lachenmann's music. Did you assumed that I did not know this information already? If so, your assumption is based on the strange belief that anyone who criticises Lachenmann's music knows nothing about it. Not true. I am extremly knowledgable about 20th century music. It just so happens that my opinons are different to yours.