Manchester, NH: Incident #7, Public Meeting #5.

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I was stopped for a public meeting/chat by an officer in Manchester, NH on June 5th, 2009. I had been shopping in Manchester and previously been to Petco, Barnes & Nobles, and Walmart and was walking back toward Petco at the 293 intersection.

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[diggingforgold]

My suggestions:

1) Be a tad bit more polite. Make sure the officer understands that you are respectful, even if that means you have to tell him that specifically (for example: "I respectfully decline to provide my ID").

2) Provide minimal information as required by law (during Terry). See "Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada", which ruled that you must provide your name and address to police when asked for it.

Keep up the good work!

[OpenCarryNH]

Nope. Name and addr will not ever be provided unless they state I've done something wrong. The next 'stop' will likely begin with 'Good afternoon officer, am I free to go?'

[RunawayRed]

I think you're just kind of.... missing something.

[OpenCarryNH]

What is that? That I don't just roll over to police? Good person not doing anything wrong! Have Mr. Police man rub your belly! Wag your tail for him! Woof Woof.

Wait, no that's BAHHH BAHH sheep.

[SIDCIAVIC]

Great stuff!

But I have one bit of advice: Never speak to the police. They will find anything possible to use against you. Remember the 5 magic words. "I have nothing to say".

[OpenCarryNH]

The more I get detained in a given town the less I have to say to them.  I do my best to be very careful about what I say.

[YllwFvrPB]

@diggingforgold the mere fact that a crime was committed isnt enough, there must be a suspect descripton which he fits. Mere proximity isnt probably cause for a terry stop. Ill have to find the case law. the stuff is terrible to dig through

[JaySkuh]

With transcrip can you please just put what you said in text, it cuts into audio so quick I cant even hear you

sad face

Damn youtube wont let me put a parathese!

[Wwallace67]

I guess the officer is feeling pressure to respond to the dispatcher. He sounded like he was on your side, that is, he understood the law and that you weren't doing anything wrong according to your law, but felt oblidged to respond the the dispatcher's directions.

If 5 people call the police on a suspicious character riding a bicycle at night, the police will probably attempt to chat with the subject, if only to ascertain his demeanor.

[siranar]

great work

[rachelabombdotcom]

I'm moving to NH!

[diggingforgold]

If the cop is performing a Terry stop (has reasonable suspicion that a crime has been, is, or is about to be committed, and is stopping you for it), name and address are not protected under your 5th.

However, I don't think a "man with a gun" call counts as reasonable suspicion required for a Terry stop, but if an actual crime is reported in your area, then they could require you to provide a name and address. They could also pat you down and take your gun.

Looking forward to your next videos.

[svenp]

I think you should be just a *little* gentler / less strident. He was 99% in your court, you just stick to your guns (figuratively) and be polite(r) and you'll be better off / create more good will.

You figure this guy probably didn't want to talk to you but HAD to in order to fulfill his job.

[RunawayRed]

... So instead of addressing my lengthy comment on the other video, which would clearly imply that I don't suggest you just "roll over to the police", you decide to respond with this masterpiece... Way to raise the bar. Do you usually put words in people's mouths to avoid a real debate, or what?