Plug-in Hybrids: Renewable Energy Solution of the Month

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Many people seem to think dealing with climate change will bring poverty and limit human development.
The truth may be exactly the opposite. Moving to a world of where we aren't fighting each other over the last few drops of oil, where energy is free, will mean a better life, with greater opportunities even for an expanding population. If we make the right decisions, we could be on the verge of the most prosperous period in human history.


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http://www.udel.edu/V2G/
http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2008/nov/car112807.html
http://newenergynews.blogspot.com/2010/01/advantages-of-plugging-in.html
http://climateprogress.org/2010/01/10/2010s-triumphs-challenges-for-plug-in-v...

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[TrueMetis]

We've recently started to get smart metres installed around where I live (they just came and switched mine out today). It's pretty cool, except for all the idiots who think they'll cause cancer or something.

[greenman3610]

@TrueMetis

there will always be idiots.

[gabrielamaro100]

This is so cool!

Keep me posted :)

Hows the Chevy Volt vs Plug in Prius vs Leaf??? I know leaf can't take gas but I'm talking about carbon foot print of the car. Creating the car and battery and the disposal of the car and battery. How big of a foot print is that? Also what in the next Gen of battery cells? China has a regeneration cells for power? Could that work in a car or phone?

[greenman3610]

@gabrielamaro100

see the climate crocks blog for a recent post on this -- google

Electric Vehicles New and Old. Musk and Lutz interview.

[cristoballs]

greenman, what are your thoughts on tariffs which artificially inflate the price of import vehicles? if we are truly interested in the best technology wouldn't it make sense to do away with the tarriffs on our foreign competitors?

[greenman3610]

@cristoballs

you make a good point. I'm not sure where I stand on that, but living in Michigan, I'm torn between anger at the smug, incompetent managers of our auto companies, and the real needs of our large corp of skilled workers - who can compete with anyone.

It would appear that the rising price of energy is making all US products more competitive against foreign imports, due to increased costs of transport.

[vmgqie]

typical dogooder, living in pure fantasy land, what about and the rest of the world. Also how can I and the rest of us afford to do this shit when alarmist close down where I work. Talk about impractical, replace all the cars with unreliable, expensive cars especially when alarmist nazi have bankrupted the whole western worlds economies, great going dickheads . But nothing will stop alarmist living in dream land, with all there little greenie dogooder dreamer buddies

[MrJarth]

@rhinoboy111 well the electricity can be generated from non-fossile fuels. the importance of a hybrid is it doesn't make big oil as angry as a pure electric car.

unfortunately shorter product time usage and more maintainance makes money on every selling front. when you say a normal car you mean today's car. the cars of yesterday were less efficient but ran longer and required less maintainance, like most other products. this trend most likely wont stop, its a burden of capitalism/industrialism

[rhinoboy111]

How are hybrid cars a method of reducing CO2 output, the reluctance of the manufacturers to disclose full CO2 production for the batteries etc for the prius shows that they know how bad they are. Even if you go with the optomistic numbers on it's co2 ouput over 5 years replacing a car after 5 years because the batteries need replacing. A normal car that can be run for longer with minimal maintainance is far better. lets not mention when china and india get the same standard of living as USA

[TheEclipsenow]

"The ownership strategy of the vehicle battery will have a significant impact on whether using vehicle batteries for grid storage is realistic, as this may reduce the life/reliability of vehicle batteries for not much financial return for the vehicle owner."

Using EV's to back up an intermittent grid will kill the EV.

iea[dot]org/papers/2011/smartg­rids_roadmap.pdf

[VictorLepanto]

@Theimmortalwhitewolf: The electric motor converting the energy from the battery has nothing to do w/ getting that energy in there in fhe 1st place. I am talking about ability of the battery to actually store the charge. Also, as a battery loses charge there is also a loss out put. No way do electric battering makes sense from an environmental perspective. I haven't even discussed the other drawbacks such as inconvenience & toxins. I've worked w/ electic engines professionally.

[Theimmortalwhitewolf]

@VictorLepanto Well not saying your wrong , but to point out the thermodynamic limit of most steel engines are 37%. However the average range is 18-20%(because 37% assume ideal conditions) . Electric motors convert 75% of the chemical energy from the batteries to power the wheels. So if you can have an efficient means of producing power in the local region, you could beat the overall system efficiency from energy source (oil well) to power delivered to the wheels.