Tiktaalik, Your Inner Fish - Part 2

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Neil Shubin speaks about his book, Your Inner Fish, and about his discovery of the Tiktaalik fossil.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Tiktaalik
• your
• inner
• fish
• evolution
• darwin
• natural
• selection
• human
• history
• religion
• christianity

[musicequalstruth]

This is interesting, but I got one for you. Even though evolution is real, it hasn't proven anything about random mutation, which was Darwin's mechanism for evolution. My research, as well as personal experience, have proven to me that randomness is NOT involved in the evolution of life.DNA doesn't randomly mutate, and DNA is the code, the information, that tells tiny proteins what to create.Where this information is coming from should be the debate.This information is Intelligently Designed

[JFZcafe]

According to Darwin, the mechinism for evolution is natural selection, not random mutation, although there is a component of randomness to it. There is the random component of variation, some good and some bad depending on the current environment. Then there is the nonrandom component of competition for limited resources. Some variations will prove more advantageous than others. DNA does mutate, either by radiation from the sun, or otherwise faulty copying. Im not sure where you get your info

[JFZcafe]

The wonderful thing about science is that any one of us could trek up to the arctic circle and poke around in the dirt to see if what Shubin found is really up there or not. But there's no way to find out who really wrote the book of Daniel, or Colossians, or Job, and ask them what the hell they were talking about. So I think you will have a very difficult time arguing that bible prophecies should be believed ahead of the Darwinian ones.

[JFZcafe]

You mentioned your trust in bible prophecies. And the whole point of this discussion is an evolutionary "prophecy", if you will, that gives us evolutionists confidence in evolution. So we both believe in prophecy. That's one thing we have in common. Our goal now should be to find whose prophecies are better, or more meaningful, or more significant. So far I've limited myself to one particular evolutionary prophecy, but there are dozens, perhaps hundreds of them, that we could discuss.

[JFZcafe]

Do we have to have these theological discussions here? You quote the bible as if you think I am unaware of the many problems with it, and some light bulb will go off as the scales fall from my eyes. No, your bible verses dont mean squat to me, understand? For the last time, your bible verses do not prove anything. I believe in the fossil record. If you want to make points here you will have to learn to discuss the fossil record.

[JFZcafe]

These things DO occur in several ancient writings which is why you shouldnt take them too seriously. And do I have to tell you about how the concept of Lucifer (Satan) was adopted by the Jews from their neighbors, and the powers attributed to him grew and grew with each generation in the popular literature, according to whatever political turmoils that particular culture found themselves in? (See Elaine Pagels' "The Origin of Satan" and Neil Forsythe's "The Old Enemy: Satan and the Combat Myth")

[Darienbeagle]

Shubin is indeed a great speaker. I got to hear him speak at the American Museum of Natural History. His talk was very good, and answered questions from even very young children respectfully without talking down to them.

[Chickenisgoood]

this is pretty much the whole summary of chapter 1 of Your Inner Fish

[MrZardoz777]

Fascinating, thanks for posting.

[bshieldsbb01]

18:00 and on

Evolution works...get over it.

Thanks for posting this lecture, it was really interesting, and Shubin's a good story-teller.

[musicequalstruth]

i'm not arguing against evolution, it is occurring, I'm arguing that it is occurring due to intention and purpose, with some level of intelligence behind the design of life. I'm not saying God created everything, I'm saying that random mutation didn't create life. There is lots of evidence showing that thought and intention have a powerful effect over reality. This should be included into evolutionary theory. So far it is not. Until you understand modern physics, you'll never understand reality

[MeganJ0y4Fans]

Tiktaalik proves evolution is a fact, not a theory as you claim. " scientists are neglecting to include supernatural events"....such as? sounds like you live in a fantasy reality where facts or evidence are coming straight from your imagination. You have nothing to back up your claims.

[emancoy]

so your an Alien intervention ID, not the creationist ID type.

I haven't seen any UFO's and aliens. Most evidences are allegory at best. The only way that I would be convinced is either I see the aliens myself. But that has never happened.

[musicequalstruth]

So,my issue with the modern evolutionary theory is that most biological scientists are neglecting to include supernatural events and higher dimensional physical laws into their theories.New research shows that using only a laser,you can completely reprogram DNA,and a completely new species will generate from an existing species in 1 generation(Salamander to frog)That alone proves that a species can turn into another species without the need for a middleman. Tiktaalik was a species,nothing more.

[musicequalstruth]

Bingo, I'm definitely not a creationist, but I can see the design in the machine of life you could say,and I have had some pretty weird events occur in my life that can only be described as spiritual,so I feel compelled to believe in the higher energy realms,which modern physics just so happens to be finding in their math and hopefully soon in physical proof. New science suggests that life might be intrinsic to the universe. That means that intelligent life must be everywhere.Aliens are humanoid

[emancoy]

@musicequalstruth

if the claim that spontaneous DNA formation from sand is true, then the formation of non-life to life is much more common occurrence. Hence the creationist adamantly claim that Abiogenesis is an impossibility. But if that research is true then the creationists are wrong. I don't think that creationist would acknowledge that research.