Bill C-484

3 minute informational video on the Unborn Victims of Crime Bill

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[ThusFar777]

Not about the majority of women, but about maintaining an idea of the fetus that has has no basis in facts.

If my unborn child was killed right now at 38 wks, I would want the law to prosecute for the loss of my child, not just for an attack against me. So would most women.

[jeffreydstephaniuk]

Thank you!

[Allie468]

great video! very well put together. my only suggestion would be to lower the music volume a bit so we can hear what you're saying a bit better. you had a lot of great things to say! thank you

[ThusFar777]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "lawful termination" or "any act or omission on the part of the woman" excluded? Does there not have to be a crime committed against the woman?

I really hope you are never unfortunate enough to lose a loved unborn child, but if you ever were you would then understand why there is a need for this bill and it has nothing to do with abortion.

[AForestFire]

Correction: "lawful termination" is excluded by the bill. Make abortion illegal and C-484 can be used to charge women and doctors. The pro-life lobby have set the board and they've thought a few moves ahead. Problem is they've played this exact game before in the U.S. Canadians are wise to this and aren't buying. It doesn't matter how many times we're told this is really about protecting moms from violence and not making abortion illegal. One word — "lawful" — totally blows away that cover.

[jaydajinx]

well put

[ThusFar777]

Of course they know that....which is why they are so afraid of this bill.

[BigBlueWave]

If I lose my unborn child through crime, my child's death should be legally recognized for what it is: a homicide. This reality should not be sacrificed for a legal fiction in the name of "choice". If legal abortion must rest on a legal fiction, that reflects poorly on its own logical foundations.

[ThusFar777]

That you people would sacrifice the wants and needs of grieving women and their families just so you won't run the risk of feeling guilty about a choice you might make is what is truly sick.

We should not have to conform to the fairy tale that the fetus does not exist just to make you feel better about your choices. This bill allows for your choice to abort, but my unborn child should not be sacrificed for you to have it with no guilt.

[ThusFar777]

Abortion is explicitly exempted in the bill, as is any action or omission on the woman's part. The slippery slope argument is nothing but fear mongering and can't be substantiated with evidence.

[ThusFar777]

Now, could you imagine if Robert Picton was only charged with the murder of one woman because he won't be given any more time anyway? It would be a complete disregard for the lives of all the other women who were killed. It would be a complete absence of justice. I wonder how that would sit with the families of the rest of the women.

[ThusFar777]

this is essential for parents and families suffering perinatal loss.

Women want and need the law to execute justice for the life of her child. Much more was taken from her than an appendage. Most women find it offensive that the law ackowledges animals and property more than a woman's unborn child.