Brennan Manning Live At Woodcrest

Author and Nationally known speaker will be at Woodcrest's Columbia Campus June 15 & 16, 2007. Rebroadcast at Woodcrest's Jefferson City campus on June 23, 2007.

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[kolainca]

Repent and believe!

Repent -- from trying to please God by being a moralistic, self-righteous, religiously driven, rule following a-hole

Believe -- that I (God) love you, always have, always will, that I'm crazy about you, died and ROSE for you and even on your absolute worst day, even when you reject me, I don't reject you. I am trustworthy, indeed!

There's the good news.

Jesus' love transforms. Religion makes hypocrites and haters.

[mopseth]

Name ONE sermon in Scripture that started with God loves you (and has a wonderful plan for your life). God is indeed love, but he demonstrates his love, not with a blanket "I love you all" but by sending his Son to die for us (Romans 5:8). When we repent at the cross, we receive grace and mercy from God. Rather than daring the American church to believe God loves them, how about daring them to believe that we are to be holy, set apart for God's glory.

[gertrudebyrd21]

@AreUDumbProductions Augustine was never a sun worshiper, he's the most important Christian in church history outside of Paul and the Apostles, and Aquinas close behind. But having personally had the pleasure to meet Brennan Manning and listen to his complete theology its not as heretical as everybody seems to think it is.

[AreUDumbProductions]

@gertrudebyrd21 Thanks for acknowledging the discernment thing. Also, I honestly don't know enough about Aquinas and Augustine to say if they're in heaven, and I'm never the judge of that obviously, no one can know. I just read that Augustine was a sun worshipper to his death, so I don't see how he could say he's Christian still. I don't know enough about Aquinas. I won't refute them completely, I just know the bible says that we shouldn't look to philosophy There's danger of getting confused

[AreUDumbProductions]

@gertrudebyrd21 I don't need to defend what I believe and neither do you. I just think this man's preaching can be dangerous. He says a few big statements in this one video alone that really contradicts the bible. And I'm sure if you've read it enough, you'd know it.

[AreUDumbProductions]

@gertrudebyrd21 The bottom line is I think it's dangerous to quote people like Brennan Manning in sermons as he has written books in which he quotes people of all kinds of religions and takes them as good teachers to follow. This is not the source of all knowledge, the bible should be the center. It can lead someone down the wrong path. If you believe all denominations teach Christianity right, that's your belief. But I see a few that go against scripture. That's my point, that's it that's all.

[AreUDumbProductions]

@gertrudebyrd21 Listen, I can argue with you till I'm blue in the face, but as believers we aren't supposed to do that. I can't know for sure if they're in heaven or not. Who knows. All I know is Augustine was practicing sun worship to his dying day, Auquinas I'm not too familiar with, but I know that God doesn't want us to listen to philosophy as it's pretty pointless and tries to make logic in everything to do with a belief, when a belief always is a belief. You never know it's true or not

[gertrudebyrd21]

@theresaelsmore I do agree however that true discernment comes from Jesus alone, this however does not mean that Jesus cannot speak through us to others (such as Augustine and Aquinas). Every preacher, lay christian, and theologian alike in the world regularly states and prays for Jesus to speak through them daily

[gertrudebyrd21]

@theresaelsmore Did you really just argue the Augustine and Aquinas were not "born again Christians? Since you are a fundamentalist when it comes to scritpure I detect, then tell what does scripture say are the qualifactions for being "born again?" Then tell me EXACTLY how Aquinas and Augustine are not born again, because they were baptized knew the scripture if u have auctually read them. Having studied them for years u are the first person I have ever met to make such a far fetched claim

[theresaelsmore]

@gertrudebyrd21 He reveals things to us

[theresaelsmore]

@gertrudebyrd21 Yes I have, I actually read a lot of their writings in my philosophy class in college, and neither were truly born again Christians because their writings showed they clearly didnt know scripture, and when you're born again, you have discernment to know which denomination, if any, you will choose. With that discernment that comes from God you will certainly not choose all of them. Read your scripture, not your history books. Jesus is the one who brings true wisdom and knowledge.

[gertrudebyrd21]

Your an idiot, get an theological education, or at least a child's knowledge of the history of the Christian faith and doctrine, and if you have one then go and re-read basic church history. "And you can't be a Minister, Pastor, Priest, Philosopher, and Theologan all that the same time." Ever heard of a guy named Augustine? Or Aquinas? Didn't think so....