bygINCpresents, OIL (Black and Liquid in Modernity) --Pt. 2, OLD SCHOOL VALUES

Solid modernity had some good that we now pine for. Family, community, order, everyone knowing their place. But there was bad back then too. And it was overt. Those in power knew they had it and there was nothing you could do about it. Then that structure began to melt. More rights for more people.This liquid world does not have the structure solid modernity once had. There's bad and good to that. Individual rights is the order of today. How far will those rights take the individual and the society?

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[TisWeDaPeople]

Being of Maluku descend (former Spice Islands)my community was brought to this country in the 50ties and greeted with busloads of white dutch people, throwing bananas and peanuts over the fence of the camps (trying to feed the monkeys) they put my grandparents in. Now the government is turning back time and try to colonialise the peoples mind all over again and actually find soil to do it. Good thing not all new/oldcomers and dutch buy into the crap, we teach decolonisation of ourselves. OneLove

[TisWeDaPeople]

Discrimination has been growing explosively in the past 4 years and politicians take the mainstage in discriminating newcomers. Being married to a Jamaican man who has been having trouble just trying to visit his kids, gettin no visa, because hey, he's from a country that is not an EU-affiliate and therefor must be having a hidden agenda for coming to a wealthy society. The dutch culture is based on colonialism, integration-assimilation-absor­btion. When you dont fit the norm, they scared of you.

[TisWeDaPeople]

As a woman born in the 70ties and growing up in the 80ties. As youngsters we were lucky because we grew up as people hanging out together in a schoolyard. The group demographic was made out of different nationalities, we hung out with first names and not passports.

Nowadays with a nationalist government the kids grow up with more separation from eachother, more emphasis on the negative side of the 'unknown' rather than celebrating the richness of a diverse society.

[bygINCpresents]

the acting "cool" for your friends thing doesn't have any borders.

[Xarscum]

you're right on the spot there,

but some "coffee" shops in holland tend to not ask for ID when a minor is coming to buy Pot.While some do ask for ID and ban the minor.

also because the age restriction to coffeeshops is set to 18 most kids around 13-14 still try to get some because it's "cool"

the drug problem is mostly trying to act cool in front of people your own age,

is this the same in the US too?

or entirely different since Pot is illegal in the US.

cuz it's mostly peer pressure.

[bygINCpresents]

haven't alcohol and drugs, specifically, pot, been in holland for a while now? what has changed? is it the perception that the "newcomers" in a more diverse society are making the ills of that society more evident? the dutch now have to look at themselves the way a newcomer would --the way a young child will not hold back and show you the exact negativity you've taught them. and it's more than drugs. it's about a changing culture of inclusion... any truth is this?

[Xarscum]

the main problem in amsterdam?

or rather in holland is that the government says the youth have lost their path's and resort to Drinking, smoking (pot),and violence and other stuff.the main reason why this happens is because the government does'nt believe in its youth and the youth back this up by giving the government what it wants. NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

and what's next for me? it's college.

[bygINCpresents]

ppl do things for 8 million reason. at the core is a search for meaning love, specifically love of self. if your family ain't reinforcing the best in you, until you know better, the bloods and the crips may. that choice simply comments on the lacking options in your life. the more options you have, the more people around that give a damn about you --your mom-- the less boring life seems. you in amsterdam? what problem are major there for you and your friends?

[Xarscum]

Okay i'm the user that was using my moms account to post some comments.

sry for the typo but i guess you understand what i mean.the one that made sure i went to school was my mom.

while most of classmates really did'nt make any effort to go to school.

and i agree on your point of most people being good and that they say good is boring.

the point being some people becoming "Emo" or "blood","crip" just because they find life boring or something like that.

[bygINCpresents]

funny thing is i'm up preparing for a speech i have to give in 3 hrs at a "back to school rally" for young kids. (life has a way of reminding you when you're doing the right thing.) i want to spend my life focused on kids like you who know and do better. no one talked to us when i was young. much of the energy of my school was spent controlling the bad kids. it's the same anywhere in the world... what's next for you? college?