@GladiatorGT Ask any wrestler if you can lose 20 pounds of water weight and still keep fighting effectively. And realistically you aren't going to just lose water to make that cut, you're gonna have to lose muscle too.
WorldTravelerMan, you're wrong about it being harder for a heavier man to lose weight. The larger the man, the EASIER it is to loose weight. The reason is, a heavy person loses a smaller percentage of their total body weight. A heavy person carries a lot of water and water-weight is not difficult to lose. Think about it. You really think it's harder for Frank Mir to lose 20 pounds than Kenny Florian? Kenny Florian looks like he'll die if he loses 20 lbs. Ask any wrestler.
The reason there is no superheavyweight is because it would be a freak show. Healthy humans just don't get that big. The only people who can't make 265 are freaks like Hong Man Cho (brain tumor that caused him to grow out of control), Bob Sapp (loaded to hell on steroids and supplements), Akebono (morbidly obese). Moreover, the heavyweight division is BETTER than the SUPERheavyweight division. A good heavyweight will mop the floor with a superheavyweight freak any day.
@joeylz96 If you saw some other comments, there are talented fighters that are heavier than 265. They would have to make the new class before people who are over 265 can move to the UFC. I think there is a bias of the UFC (or rather Zuffa) to be restricting the weight class, as WorldTravelerMan has said, a fighter of Hong Man Choi's stature wouldn't be healthy cutting to 265. There are plenty of big guys in other organisations. It wouldn't be hard, Zuffa is being narrow minded.
@57worldwide Yes I watched the whole thing. I know its healthier for them, all im saying is that their wouldn't be enough or a big enough division. But its a good idea. And if the UFC can get a hold of people, than its a great idea.
I think this is a great proposition. Although in the interests of the fighters and their egos, it should be an unrestricted wieght class meaning a kind of return to the old UFC days. It might be interesting for the sport to have a weight class around 230 but some of the heavyweights probably don't want to stay fighting at what you said wouldn't be the 'premier' weight class. There would still be some guys being matched against smaller/bigger fighters but possibly insurance is one of the issues?
@daridp They still do, it sometimes they cancel out the 220lbs division and mix them into the openweight division, I know this cause I too am with the USJA and weigh 260lbs. And I have competed against guys at 280lbs, and most of my teammates have faced guys at that weight. My coach cuts from 230lbs to 220lbs division cause he's a much smaller sized Heavyweight.
@GladiatorGT Ask any wrestler if you can lose 20 pounds of water weight and still keep fighting effectively. And realistically you aren't going to just lose water to make that cut, you're gonna have to lose muscle too.
thekkl 4 months ago
WorldTravelerMan, you're wrong about it being harder for a heavier man to lose weight. The larger the man, the EASIER it is to loose weight. The reason is, a heavy person loses a smaller percentage of their total body weight. A heavy person carries a lot of water and water-weight is not difficult to lose. Think about it. You really think it's harder for Frank Mir to lose 20 pounds than Kenny Florian? Kenny Florian looks like he'll die if he loses 20 lbs. Ask any wrestler.
GladiatorGT 6 months ago
The reason there is no superheavyweight is because it would be a freak show. Healthy humans just don't get that big. The only people who can't make 265 are freaks like Hong Man Cho (brain tumor that caused him to grow out of control), Bob Sapp (loaded to hell on steroids and supplements), Akebono (morbidly obese). Moreover, the heavyweight division is BETTER than the SUPERheavyweight division. A good heavyweight will mop the floor with a superheavyweight freak any day.
GladiatorGT 6 months ago
@joeylz96 If you saw some other comments, there are talented fighters that are heavier than 265. They would have to make the new class before people who are over 265 can move to the UFC. I think there is a bias of the UFC (or rather Zuffa) to be restricting the weight class, as WorldTravelerMan has said, a fighter of Hong Man Choi's stature wouldn't be healthy cutting to 265. There are plenty of big guys in other organisations. It wouldn't be hard, Zuffa is being narrow minded.
57worldwide 10 months ago
@57worldwide Yes I watched the whole thing. I know its healthier for them, all im saying is that their wouldn't be enough or a big enough division. But its a good idea. And if the UFC can get a hold of people, than its a great idea.
joeylz96 10 months ago
I think this is a great proposition. Although in the interests of the fighters and their egos, it should be an unrestricted wieght class meaning a kind of return to the old UFC days. It might be interesting for the sport to have a weight class around 230 but some of the heavyweights probably don't want to stay fighting at what you said wouldn't be the 'premier' weight class. There would still be some guys being matched against smaller/bigger fighters but possibly insurance is one of the issues?
57worldwide 10 months ago
@joeylz96 Did you watch the whole video or did you just leave a comment?
57worldwide 10 months ago
yes indeed
turkeychuck 10 months ago
@daridp They still do, it sometimes they cancel out the 220lbs division and mix them into the openweight division, I know this cause I too am with the USJA and weigh 260lbs. And I have competed against guys at 280lbs, and most of my teammates have faced guys at that weight. My coach cuts from 230lbs to 220lbs division cause he's a much smaller sized Heavyweight.
CavemanJesus4Life 11 months ago
@killerpnthehiller Only problem is not too many other contenders in the super heavyweight.
joeylz96 11 months ago