Design and Implementation Part 1

Part 1 of a 2 part series.

At a secret location in the US desert southwest, the ever diligent D3ADP001 works to perfect the EBN, Inc. dry cell design.

In this video, D3 discusses how to configure the dry cell for various conditions and provides insights into care and feeding.

Presented by D3ADP001 on behalf of the Energy Builders Network.

http://www.energybuilders.net

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[HHO2Burn]

I'm thinking about current leak and am not sure I totally understand it. But, on the Hole-pattern of the plates, would it help to offset the 3 holes at the top of the plate and the one at the bottom, say over to the right, then turn every other plate so that the electrolyte and gas have to sort of zig-zag through the cells? Would this force more current through the plates and less through the electrolyte? Would this restrict the electrolyte flow too much?

[ebninc]

some of our people would agree with you ... others think the leakage is from one side of a plate to the other ... a couple have tried the offset holes and it did not seem to increase efficiency ... we are working it from a number of angles ... it will be beaten, its just a matter of which way works best and can be implemented at lowest cost ...

[rlsmith621]

I've copy your dry cell but decided on a 5N6; like Zero is showing. The first test produced 2.14 l/M using 270 watts. I'm good with that but I still don't fully understand how one designs a cell. You mention: Source voltage that determines plate,wiring Desired Amps Cell configeration Amps draw per in2 1.2 - 1.4 vdc between neutrals. How does all this fit together in a cell design if I had to dream one up? Great job EBN is doing. I'm a fan. Cheers, REB621

[ebninc]

Well, you got some of it right. Best volts per plate gap is really in the 2v to 2.5v range ... 2v is a bit more efficient, 2.5v makes a bit more gas but also generates a bit of heat ... but in that range is considered optimal ...

there is a document on the internet that should be most helpfull to you in answering some of your questions ... do a Google search for "D9.PDF Bob Boyce" ... grab the D9.PDF document ... study it ... excellent turtorial ...

[rewindyourpants]

the only part i dont like about the ebn cells is the small space in which to hook up an electrical connect, maybe you would just put some washers in between the plates your connecting then a bolt and tighten together like that.

[ebninc]

you have a good argument ... and its one we knocked around a lot ... the quick connectors we suggest for making the electrical connections are certainly not ideal ... it was purely a compromise to make it easy for the experimenter to reconfigure the device on the fly ... once you have a setup you like, we suggest that the connections be permanently soldered ... we considered other methods such as you suggest but there just aint enough real estate ... we are working on it though ...

[d3adp001]

yes this cell is mainly for learning, and testing which requires main different wiring schemes, a purpose built cell can and more than likely will incorp. bolttype connections. remember each terminal sees relatively low amps, on a 21 plate cell that draws 35amps the most a single connector sees is half of that, which is about half the connectors rating, which should be considered the max for a ss connection. derating for ss is important

[d3adp001]

well I sometimes forget that everyone hasn't been around for the whole ride, so I tried to forget I knew anything and explain the basics. well get into Ebn product specifics soon, its hard to break away from testing though:)

[AlmostHydrogen]

Hi D3,

I appreciate your easing into it - you probably did that for me anyway right? After all I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

;)

Still, you all have done some outstanding work. You have my respect & feel free to 'school me' anytime.

Sincerely,

Steve aka AH

[d3adp001]

Well torque specs and tighting pattern will be another video, this was more of a design talk, than a specific instructional. Sheesh, man I guess thats what happens when your always checking data and results, people love to find what ya did wrong :Pj/k I know what you guys are saying. I want to ease into it.