@gyreenedoc to do what??-- if you mean fuel for steam?--wood is ideal..wood pellets too..but anything that burns--even garbage..charcoal is good too...propane as well or a combination of a bunch of things..
@doughesson thats debatable. Anything can be engineered. just takes some ingenuity. If i used a 3/4 inch copper tube and focussed 80 000 btu's of propane flame on it--I assure you it will give plenty of force and temperature. Monotube boilers are in essence exactly that! however --simply put wood now is cheaper than diesel or gas and can fire a boiler for far less than fossil fuels. the only reason steam is obsolete is because it was slow..nothing more-- people want to push a button and go....
@porpoisefathom Instant demand heaters can't build up enough heat to superheat water into steam.That works well enough when heating bathwater but not to propel a ship.
@porpoisefathom Actually,Diesels are more efficient b/c you don't burn as much fuel before going to work as you do w/ a steam plant which has to build up pressure before getting underway.Ever wonder why USN sailors bitch about "idling the car for 8 hours before getting underway"?It takes a while to build up enough sustainable pressure to start the ship moving & keep it moving.You can't just light fires & go.
@druisteen1 the reason is--steam is more efficient and in todays world , should it ever get out that we could viably use steam again--oil companies would have a panic attack! today we could use instant on demand heaters that superheat steam instantly into the tubes. without need for boilers. making steam so cheap it would undermine oil...
@gyreenedoc to do what??-- if you mean fuel for steam?--wood is ideal..wood pellets too..but anything that burns--even garbage..charcoal is good too...propane as well or a combination of a bunch of things..
porpoisefathom 1 month ago
@porpoisefathom .... what are we going to use for fuel to do that?
gyreenedoc 1 month ago
@doughesson thats debatable. Anything can be engineered. just takes some ingenuity. If i used a 3/4 inch copper tube and focussed 80 000 btu's of propane flame on it--I assure you it will give plenty of force and temperature. Monotube boilers are in essence exactly that! however --simply put wood now is cheaper than diesel or gas and can fire a boiler for far less than fossil fuels. the only reason steam is obsolete is because it was slow..nothing more-- people want to push a button and go....
porpoisefathom 6 months ago
@porpoisefathom Instant demand heaters can't build up enough heat to superheat water into steam.That works well enough when heating bathwater but not to propel a ship.
doughesson 6 months ago
@porpoisefathom Actually,Diesels are more efficient b/c you don't burn as much fuel before going to work as you do w/ a steam plant which has to build up pressure before getting underway.Ever wonder why USN sailors bitch about "idling the car for 8 hours before getting underway"?It takes a while to build up enough sustainable pressure to start the ship moving & keep it moving.You can't just light fires & go.
doughesson 6 months ago
@stoomboot19
no sorry it's not the "glazic ", but this mame mean somethinng in my brain
i will contact you if i remembered something
but you can write to the navy muséum ( in Paris )
they will are intereded to search whive you the destiny of this ship
druisteen1 9 months ago
@druisteen1
is the name of that ship "glazic" ???
that was a dutch made steamtug that had worked for the french navy
do you have some more information of this navy tug?
stoomboot19 9 months ago
@porpoisefathom
the problem is than a museum wanted to salvage the tug boat
but wanted to buy it for 1 fr
but it's a military tug-boat and france doesn't want to sell it
10 years after the boat is a reck and
france will destroy ther last bateau -citerne
this steam boat was made the ww1 and ww 2
( it's a tug boat who have a tank for carry water for a battle ship )
druisteen1 1 year ago
@druisteen1 the reason is--steam is more efficient and in todays world , should it ever get out that we could viably use steam again--oil companies would have a panic attack! today we could use instant on demand heaters that superheat steam instantly into the tubes. without need for boilers. making steam so cheap it would undermine oil...
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
MUY BUENO ! ! !
cidcampeador1952 1 year ago