Pre-Roman Britons & Post-Roman Anglo Saxons - DNA, Culture & Centuries apart!

Whether settling in CORNWALL, WALES, MANN, IRELAND or SCOTLAND (the five Celtic Nations located on the extremes of the British Isles), the original Britons speaking their Brethonic-based Celtic languages had NOTHING in common with the Germanic Saxons who are the natural ancestors of contemporary English people. 'ANGLE-land' (England) is so-named for its concentrations of Angles, Jutes and Saxons, or 'Anglo-Saxons', and corresponding weaponry/artifacts of those mobile people. Upon arrival on the British Isles, the Germanic tribes forced the original BRITONS to the extremes of the British Isles - this is why all of the Celtic nations - with their concentrations of Celtic artifacts and cultural landmarks - are located almost as a definitively geographical reaction to eastern invasion (from where Saxon invasion originated). UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT THE ABSOLUTE LEGAL REASSERTION OF CELTIC NATION BORDERS. There is no legal excuse for any nation to exercise control or any form of administration over another historic, legal nation. In the case of Kernow (Cornwall), there remains no Act of Union or official decree to make it part of the country of England. The ancient Cornish Stannary Parliament remains deprived of the just control it should legally assert over the ancient DUCHY of Cornwall. Cornwall's time-honoured border - historically respected and legally recognised - has been conveniently 'forgotten' as Cornwall has been successfully assimilated into the nation of Angle-land - the nation which formed AROUND IT! UNDERSTAND HISTORY - UNDERSTAND & RESPECT THE BORDERS OF CELTIC NATIONS!

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[hetrodoxly]

If your grandfather was born in England you have a 75% chance of being descended from hunter gatherers who came here just after the last ice-age.

[celticcornish]

@hetrodoxly So what? In defense of the Cornish-not-English issue we are comparing 100+ years of English assimilation-by-stealth with 1400 years of legal/recognised Cornish difference & boundary. If we are using near history and longer-term history as the basis to define our credible identity, I'm going with the 1400 years of established Celtic-Cornish difference/documented cultural divide. Can anyone substantiate anything culturally relevant/useful using the 'hunter-gatherer' period?

[MultiTangle]

The English are more mixed than the Cornish.

[celticcornish]

@MultiTangle True - the DNA studies have illustrated this. Mass mobility into and out of Cornwall has been a fundamentally modern phenomenon.

[celticcornish]

@EnglandPerson Hysterical! I see.... this video lies about DNA, but you have exclusive access to 'truthful' DNA videos? I've yet to see you substantiate any personal statement you've made with historical fact researched by you. All you do is send links to other videos and make unsubstantiated statements with no historical references. Your perspective/presentation is consistent in its lack of credibility.

[celticcornish]

@EnglandPerson I'm not disputing the notion that some people residing in modern-day England may have Celtic DNA or ancestry, WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT LIVING IN A CELTIC COUNTRY - dictated by the fact that the POST-ROMAN GERMANIC SAXON INVADERS MADE 'ANGLE-LAND' THEIR OWN WHEN THEY DROVE THE PRE-ROMAN CELTS TO THE EDGES OF THE BRITISH ISLES. If you self-identify as 'English' then that identity references post-roman Germanic, Saxon dominance; it's at odds with Celtic identity.

[celticcornish]

@StEdmundsandStGeorge But then, why should actual historical fact get in the way of a primary emotional response that the whole thing is simply about hate? Perish the thought that there could be some thinking behind any of it? Perish the thought that any complaint directed towards the administration may have substance or historic legal grounding....

[celticcornish]

@StEdmundsandStGeorge I tell you what... let's hit nobody. Instead, let's understand that we are legally different people who have been illegally assimilated; then let's acknowledge that that isn't defensible behaviour and make amends by reinstating legal borders and respectful acknowledgement that borders defined difference, reinforced by specific language and culture. It is pure ignorance to see a defense of legal, historic Cornish boundary as "anti-English".

[celticcornish]

@pilgim What is more 'romantic' - the belief that "Celt" is virtually an all-encompassing description, or that an actual language existed and was spoken by those firmly established in Celtic regions defined by their cultural/religious practices and behaviours - within their acknowledged, legal borders. I propose it is you who is 'romantic' in your belief that Celticness surrounds all; regardless of historically defined borders, languages and viscous (culturally-specific) conflicts.

[pilgim]

England is no less celtic than Ireland or scotland etc,the word 'celtic' is a Roman word meaning barbarian and was applied to spain (celta iberia) and many places through out Europe,I think some people confuse celtic with ancient peoples such as the Druids who were just as prevalent in modern day England as anywhere else.Some of our most sacred sites(stone henge,silbury etc) are in England.I wish we could get over this romantic fantasy,sure it sells well to tourists but its unfounded

[EnglandPerson]

this is a myth the english laguage is germanic but there is a lot of latin in it to it doent mean it was always spoken

[celticcornish]

@celticcornish Correction: It's a Channel 4 feature, I believe.