Sonny Liston vs Cleveland Williams II

A great battle between two of the top sluggers of the era. The greatly feared Sonny Liston faces Cleveland Big Cat Williams for the second time.
Short, conclusive and powerfull.
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[Donal111]

If a prime Cleveland Williams was around today, he would KO both Klitschkos within 2 weeks.

[chunkyscotty]

Watching this I can't help thinking, where have heavyweights like this gone? People think bigger is better, but these two weighed in at around 212 lbs and were fast, agressive, skillful and hard hitting, whereas these 250 lb tubs now are like watching paint dry. If Sonny was around now he would wipe the floor with todays heavyweights.

[kinneyshoe]

The iss ue with Cleveland Williams was that although he had a very good left hand, he held it way too low and was open to the Liston right over the top...but there is no doubt he was a marvelous physical speciman for the time....you can't throw a jab and then drop your hand to your waist...

[Bucketheadhead]

@harryandsimba Well Vitali Klitschko at full pelt is knackered by round 4. Ali could dance and dance for at least 10.

Ali v Klitschko, Ali would simply dance and jab staying away from Vitali until he wore him out and then he'd score at will and win on points or tire him out so much he'd be able to knock him out. He'd also probaby cut him up quite bad.

[harryandsimba]

Some people on here are thinking that none of the heavies of the past could beat the

Klitchkos.That's possibly true of Vitali,but Wladimir has been stopped three times,something

that people seem to forget.

[TA152H01]

@theirishbloke Saying the competition makes someone lousy is plain stupid. It just doesn't prove anything one way or another.

It's hard to compare guys from different eras. These guys are so much bigger and stronger than Ali, Ali would look like a child in against them. They're near 250 pounds ripped. Ali couldn't weigh 215 with that type of body fat.

Size makes up for a lot. These guys are huge. Their fights suck, but their conditioning and size create problems

[theirishbloke]

@TA152H01 Dereck Chisora who has lost his last 2fights is another added on to a long list so to compare the Klitschkos in the same breath as Ali, now thats purely idiotic,,there average to say the least compared to Ali .

[TA152H01]

@theirishbloke Actually, a lot of guys don't have a lot of heart. Liston quit twice. That's not heart. Sometimes a guy is so talented, he's never tested. Liston quit when he was really tested, and felt hopeless. Guys like Ali, Leonard, Holmes, Frazier etc... would never quit.

Your last line is purely idiotic. That's like saying Ali wasn't a great fighter because he fought Evangelista. You must know better than to say something like that.

[theirishbloke]

@TA152H01 thats bullshit every champion has heart,liston took big hits from cleveland williams in both fights ,,and early in his career fought with a broken jaw ,ur judging his whole career on the ali fight yawn, Ali,not a past it shot briggs,wlad Klitschkos in trouble if were goin to judge him on his defeats,seen him fight in madison square garden,,nearly fell asleep ,people said vital quit against bird,,he agood fighter but he is fighting Dereck Chisora in his nxt fight,says it all

[genericgeorge]

Sonny was in good shape here unlike 4 years later in both Ali fights where he looked bloated.

[TA152H01]

@jimmyg141 Liston was sooooooo slow, and he had no heart. He'd also look like a child in with a man. He wasn't a big guy, only 6'0". Once he got hit, he'd quit. He couldn't handle a guy that big.

Both Klitschkos look awkward, but they got quick hands, and they're so damn big. They're 250s with very, very low bodyfat. It's not like Ali at 220, which was somewhat fat, or even Liston. These guys are ripped. I just watch Briggs fight Vitali. He is a huge man, but he looked tiny.

[jimmyg141]

@TA152H01 the Klitschko's are a little underrated, they can fight and have an awkwardness about them which makes them hard to fight, but both of these guys i think would have beaten them because they would have backed them up and neither Klitschko fights well in reverse. Williams was a little chinny so im less certain about him, but he was fearless, and quite fast with a good jab and hook. Liston I feel would win handily and having an 84 inch reach I feel would be able to reach them.