Why don't you believe in Shiva?!?

ramble ramble pt 2 vs robert barron, bring it theists

i hope regardless of your religious background you can be open to the views of others

other stuff i didnt say: even if you've had incredible personal experiences, so have a million other people from other religions! god touched you? confucius touched your best friend mark, so what.
what makes your god right? and if you don't know, why believe? why not just live life and have premarital sex and stop rallying against abortion and shit

also i didn't really wanna bother editing, please forgive

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[Archangel866]

I dont believe in shiva because shiva is a false god that has limited power (according to the myth), and if shiva was so great, where is the "great commision" from shiva?

[wge621]

@Archangel866 hmm, someone missed the point. hopefully you absorb more from other videos than the title.

[First1it1Giveth]

@wge62- After reading your response over again many times I can only conclude that you don't understand any point I was trying to make and reasserts the catch 22 I was talking about. You're upset with Christians for being fundamentalists and translating scripture literally. But the opposite is also true when saying the scripture has differing narratives throughout each book.

[wge621]

@First1it1Giveth differing narratives is another way of saying the book contradicts itself, another reason i wouldn't trust it. how do you know which parts to take literally (love your neighbor as thyself) and which parts to ignore (if you see your neighbor working on the sabbath, he must be put to death)? surely it isn't just 'adhere strongly to the new testament, smile fondly at the old for trying'

[First1it1Giveth]

@wge621-I'm going to take a swing at this (God help me) to help clarify your misgivings about the Bible. You seem to be implying a catch 22 here. It's as if you said to a scientist, "Well because you didn't use every known use of the scientific method to solve a physics problem you're just picking and choosing what works for you." So, unless I'm interpreting the scripture the way you are (which is apparently an anti-religious worldview) I'm picking and choosing. That's simply a false dichotomy.

[wge621]

@First1it1Giveth ...No, you just created a false analogy. interpreting some pieces of the bible that are clearly written as facts as 'theological poetry' would be like a scientist claiming a law of nature as 'scientific poetry.' any scientist who did that would be laughed out of all credibility. you can use all the literary terms and allusions you want but it won't disguise the fact that modern christians are selective interpreters of the bible.

[hellobal100]

@TheFutureengineer20 yes i agree with the OT argument u made, i love jesus his character his luving nature,

but in reality christains also worshiping the same yahweh god of old testament

actually christains muslims and jews all worshiping same god who is judgemental racist and vindictive

how can i support then ? ya i luv jesus as a part / character of great literature but christainity is way beyond jesus

comments welcome

[TheFutureengineer20]

@hellobal100 I don't want you to interpret the Bible from its "good" points. If that's a fallacy then u r committing one by just interpreting the Bible through the OT alone and the bad stuff in it. I want you to interpret the Bible through Christ who is God fully revealed. If u think the Bible is no different then Harry Potter then I recommend u listen to ppl like Father Barron, Scott Hahn, and NT Wright. It's nothing like Harry Potter w/ the exception of central messages I guess.

[hellobal100]

@TheFutureengineer20 the fallacy ur making is, u want me to interpret bible for its good points, where there is no good points i can see, to me its and old version of Harry potter book written 2000 years ago

so u try to create a illusion of there is some thing good in bible for us

comments welcome

[TheFutureengineer20]

@hellobal100 What fallacy would that be? What immoral thing have I said? I know my points aren't about science but of literary scholarship and interpretation.

[hellobal100]

@TheFutureengineer20 you dont know this christains night mare is logic LOL

[hellobal100]

@TheFutureengineer20 the points christains made are non scientific and immoral. i think ur the one who making a fallacy

[TheFutureengineer20]

@hellobal100 I want you to engage the Christians on the points they make. Other wise you are just knocking down straw men and committing a fallacy.

[hellobal100]

@TheFutureengineer20 ya rite u want me to interpret bible in a way that favors your Christian ideology and want me to realize this is all good huh????

[TheFutureengineer20]

@hellobal100 for Christians to interpret the OT.

[TheFutureengineer20]

@hellobal100 The ten commandments mentions nothing of hell. You are also proving my point. You lack the proper knowledge and training to interpret Biblical scriptures. In Christianity Christ is God fully revealed. So we read the OT in light of him. Not a God of violence, who wants us to kill and enslave ppl. But a God who was a victim of violence, and responded by "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." I can't speak for Jews and Muslims but that's the proper way contd