HMS Duke of York vs Bc Gneisenau, Scharhorst

In this fight the saying, "fastest turret wins" really means something. Fighting for the Royal navy is hms Duke of york along with her destroyer escort, and fighting for the Kriegsmarine are the two battlecruisers
Gneisenau and Scharnhorst, try and remember that these two battlecruisers where intended to be re-armed with the same caliber 15 inch guns as bismark but this never happened, never the less their 11 inch guns can still do incredible damage.
So sit back and enjoy this hypothetical fight!

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[navghtivs]

Gneisenau and Scharhorst were designed to be raiders, their advantage was in superior speed and long operation range, in reality they wouldn't even think about getting into a deathmatch with a KGV class battleship using their too small 11inch armament, they would just steam away full speed since a KGV was about 4 knots slower.

[Rommel107]

schlechte grafik

[mgb67dk]

@MrHistorian123

Hmmm. I think that you look at the barrel diameter alone. The German 11" was effictive aginst the French Dunkerque class with armored belt 225-283 mm, and barbettes of 310-340 mm

The German 11" had a high velocity barrel length of impressing 54,5 calibers and a granate velocity of 890 m/sec with a reload every 17 sec, where as the British 14" only had 45 calibers length, and 730 m/sec with 2 reloads/min which made it only sligthly better than the older British 14"/45 of ww1.

[SpiderRider3]

@RCMP793 you can try. it doesn't always work.

[TheSDB13]

What game is this

[THISISNOTING]

nice ;)

[RCMP793]

Can you still play this say in WIN 7?

[MrHistorian123]

KGV had a 14.7 inch belt which would be impervious to 11 inch shell fire; indeed it was designed to defeat even 16 inch shells at most battle ranges.

Gneisenau and Scharnhorst would have had no chance at all against her; they would use their 2 knot speed advantage to run away. They ran away from Renown during the Norwegian campaign and Renown was far less powerful than KGV; two 11 inch hits did little damage to her but she hit Gneisenau hard.

In short, this simulation is farcical.

[Artas1984]

It is not because they were small!!! The 11 inch guns of Scharnhorst actually had a greater range and the same horizontal armor penetration capabilities as the 14 inch guns of KG5, due to their amazing 900 m/s muzzle velocity! Learn you facts!

It was because The Brits had some 20+ battleships and battlecruisers, while Germany had only 4!

[boleynali]

idiotic. you,ve got a tribal class destroyer trading blows with a couple of battlecruisers.doy would have sunk one and the other would have ran. as navghtivs says they would never have fought a battleship.

[gust0o]

@Artas1984 It didn't sink Glorious at that range - it achieved a hit, and the range is quoted as being c. 26,000 yards; about the same range at which Warspite hit Giulio Cesare in the Med. You're probably quite right on the extra range, but the old ships just didn't engage at those extremes - they'd look to close up, and in doing so the weight of fire from a KG5 would be telling, if accurate.