The Radical Paternalism of Brothels YOUTUBE IF THIS GETS FLAGGED PLEASE REVIEW

http://jiv.sagepub.com/content/20/3/270.full.pdf+html

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• women

[AliceinHats]

This is a journal article written by people the PRO side recommend. I think people are projecting onto this video. It's straightforward. Please comment if you have a problem with this video, what parts? Thanks.

[YeOldeHeretic]

i might make a video reply.

~aymi

[AliceinHats]

@YeOldeHeretic That would be great! Also if you have any questions please ask, I can clarify now and your video can be even better, more comprehensive, and will further dialogue.

[iamcuriousblue]

@AliceinHats "I'll have to check again, but sometimes they throw in meaningless emotionally charged labels for things like paternalistic to get us to shut our brains off. "

And you don't???? You demonize the hell out of "johns", call them as across the board abusers, and shout down anybody who would provide a more nuanced picture of men who buy sex than you do. And then you accuse others of arguing from emotion. The double-standard here is simply glaring.

[thestreetsempty]

@AliceinHats That would be an appropriate and unique critique, as this hasn't yet been addressed. You've been making some good videos, lately. I hope you upload these too boobootoob, as well.

Yes, there is much appeal to bigotry. No, I don't value emotional manipulation and intellectual dishonesty, and am able to spot it clearly. Thus my misanthropy.

[AliceinHats]

@thestreetsempty now that you say this it reminds me that I have problems with the labels that these intellectuals used for this journal article in more than one place, I had a separate critique on that. It was not this term, but another one that could go both ways or be used in any setting. I'll have to check again, but sometimes they throw in meaningless emotionally charged labels for things like paternalistic to get us to shut our brains off. Yours does not shut off, I see.

[thestreetsempty]

@AliceinHats Ah, gotcha. Well, yes. If it is considered "paternalistic" to perceive prohibition as prevention, then by that logic, it is also paternalistic for a workplace to have strident policies. But no, neither are paternalistic, as both methods are means of safety parameters, though at different starting points. Of course both perpetuate victim mentality. There is much violence in sex work, and those involved must use precautions. That isn't construing "victim" as a derogatory term.

[AliceinHats]

@thestreetsempty the study is by people that the pro side enjoy. It was the study that said it was very paternalistic. the study that showed these ladies are on lockdown. And that is what I'm addressing. For someone to say this is not good for women is NOT a radical statement. These women are set aside and virtually imprisoned, and that's how to make it "safe". They live as victims. SO this addresses when some yell that we are victim feminists, like it's a slur, and the state is being paternal.

[thestreetsempty]

@thestreetsempty Obviously, there is concern and striving also for having more viable options, so people don't feel pressured to go into sex work. Or, so they may transition our of sex work, with less trouble. Yes, sex worker advocacy should be about what sex workers go through and how to improve their lives and work, and not about "I hate feminists and love sex."

[thestreetsempty]

I don't believe anyone says it's paternalistic, as this would be stupid. And off-topic. Most people who are pro-legal rights to sex workers, are of this stance because this is the reality we're dealing with. We can't wait for a society of non-gender roles, non-misogyny, complete body autonomy to the point of no jobs, just volunteer work. People, right now, are being beaten up and left for dead and have nowhere to go. That is why most people are for legal rights to sex workers.