Doshu Moriteru Ueshiba sankio

Doshu Moriteru Ueshiba sankio
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[ketsan]

@matthewexpert Oh I know the implications of what I'm saying; I'm making a technical statement not an ethical one. I can harmonise with anyone in any situation.

Then again I don't see conflict as being bad or good, it just is. It's an Aikido thing you look past the dualistic world and into the real one.

[matthewexpert]

@ketsan read what you are writing... you are saying that you can put someone on their butt even if they dont attack you. read it again. then again. then again. keep reading it until you realize that you are talking about creating war out of peace.

if no one is attacking you then there is peace.

[ketsan]

@matthewexpert Get your bokken out, do sankyo. See how far away from your bokken you can get. See how far from your centre your hands are, see how far away from your power your hands are. Now I'm off training!

[ketsan]

@matthewexpert WTF? No, honest Aikido will put someone on their butt regardless of the attack or even absence of an attack. You should be able to harmonise with a person under all conditions.

This is a problem I have with doshuites, excellent ukemi, shit technique that relies on insanely overexhaggerated attacks. An honest shomen uchi stops dead at chudan with uke in good solid posture ready to attack again, not falling into a technique so that tori can throw him.

Anyway. I'm off to train.

[matthewexpert]

@ketsan that just means you aren't attacking honestly, which is a huge problem... because in aikido practice both sides know the technique.ex: i cant get an honest attack in my dojo for example.an honest attacker will fall on his face or butt when aikido is applied.but if you punch then stop then of course no aikido will happen because you stopped your attack, there is no threat.and if you want to fight back then another aikido technique is used, feel free to fight back until you are too tired

[matthewexpert]

@ketsan i've never met o'sensei or read where he said that... but in the videos of osensei that i see he has considerable more distance (and the same distance as shown in this video of his grandson) between him and his attackers than ive seen many american based aikido teachers advise:

need proof: youtube.com/watch?v=B7Cfpay1X2­c

now compare how o'sensei does it to how 99% of aikido practitioners do it...

who do you emulate? o'sensei or someone else? luckily we have his videos.

[ketsan]

@matthewexpert When I'm uke I don't bring myself down. If I'm doing it, tori isn't, tori may as well not be there. Tori's energy (ki) should be joining (ai) and so controling uke's. That's not happening here. Uke is free to do as they please, in other words they're free to fight back.

[ketsan]

@matthewexpert Who said anything about muscle? I'm talking about positioning. Remember when O-Sensei said that mans power only operates in a certain distance from his body, Doshu is well outside of that distance. Uke's centre and tori's centre need to be as close as possible and in this instance there is too much distance between them.

[matthewexpert]

@ketsan Moriteru Ueshiba is the leader of all of aikido world wide... do you really think in martial arts where the family tradition communicates all kinds of secret inner teachings that o'sensei's son is doing it all wrong? remember the more muscle you put in your aikido the more easily i'll counter and resist you and "bring you down".

[matthewexpert]

@ketsan that's how sankyo works... by taking out the slack in the arm by jamming it upwards so you want the attacker to stand up as you spin around, just makes less work for you... remember in aikido you aren't "doing" anything to someone like you keep saying (why bring him down)... he brings him self down... then you let him get up while you apply sankyo... all riding the wave of his energy as you relax and extend...