Paul Krugman of the New York Times is one of the most mendacious commentators on health care in the main stream media. See my essay "The Health Care Lies of Paul Krugman" at http://tinyurl.com/osy8e
@groam6666 The AMA report got their information right from the insurance companies...in other words, bogus. According to the California Nurses Association, private insurance companies denied up to 40% of claims, medicare is in the 4% range. Not to mention, Germany's insurance/public system is FAR different what is currently done in the States. Not to mention, the German system still guarantee's healthcare for everyone, regardless of income. The U.S. system does not.
@MadHabber93 According to the AMA, the insurance company that denies/drops the most people is Medicare.
In my home country Germany, private insurance not only costs less than government insurance (also much less regulated than insurers in the U.S.), but it also covers more and provides quicker access to hospitals. I wasn't allowed to buy it though, because I did not have my own business and I did not make enough money to discountinue paying for public insurance. The gov likes their monopoly.
@donnely138 Helloooooo???? Its called geography. Look at a map. Not to mention the fact, why the hell do they need to be looking to any other country when your system is supposed to be the best????
People who can't afford to get treatment, aren't looking for handouts, they just want to live.
Here's hoping you never get dropped by your insurance company, or have a job that doesn't pay enough for healthcare costs.
@EGarrett01 It is quite clear, from real poll after poll after poll, that our system is VERY popular with 80 to 90% being more than satisfied with the care they have received, with more than 90% never wanting a for profit, insurance run system of the U.S.
Like many other people, Krugman can't understand that the people on the other side of the argument actually have good reasons for opposing his ideas and aren't just evil or lying. When he conducts polls like this, that show that the Canadian health care system actually isn't that popular, he exposes that he was so ignorant that he couldn't see beyond his own point of view and makes himself look foolish.
For emergency care, Canada has a good system, for secondary injuries it is still good. For elective, it is a joke. But overall, probably better than the U.S. Free market would be better than both, however.
Now ask the Canadians, how many of them would trade their healthcare system for ours lol!
luvitluvitbaby 1 week ago
in yo face!
yolenin1 2 months ago
@natazer What province? I call bullshit on your comment. I have an "uncle" who lives in the States and he said....
DrearyErie 2 months ago
@groam6666 The AMA report got their information right from the insurance companies...in other words, bogus. According to the California Nurses Association, private insurance companies denied up to 40% of claims, medicare is in the 4% range. Not to mention, Germany's insurance/public system is FAR different what is currently done in the States. Not to mention, the German system still guarantee's healthcare for everyone, regardless of income. The U.S. system does not.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93 According to the AMA, the insurance company that denies/drops the most people is Medicare.
In my home country Germany, private insurance not only costs less than government insurance (also much less regulated than insurers in the U.S.), but it also covers more and provides quicker access to hospitals. I wasn't allowed to buy it though, because I did not have my own business and I did not make enough money to discountinue paying for public insurance. The gov likes their monopoly.
groam6666 3 months ago
@donnely138 Helloooooo???? Its called geography. Look at a map. Not to mention the fact, why the hell do they need to be looking to any other country when your system is supposed to be the best????
People who can't afford to get treatment, aren't looking for handouts, they just want to live.
Here's hoping you never get dropped by your insurance company, or have a job that doesn't pay enough for healthcare costs.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
@MadHabber93
"...60,000 Residents of the U.S. fraudently used the Ontario healthcare system to obtain free healthcare."
"...fraudently used the Ontario healthcare system..."
"...fraudently..."
So law breakers who want handouts and are willing to commit fraud choose your system?
donnely138 3 months ago
@EGarrett01 It is quite clear, from real poll after poll after poll, that our system is VERY popular with 80 to 90% being more than satisfied with the care they have received, with more than 90% never wanting a for profit, insurance run system of the U.S.
7 people in an audience means nothing.
MadHabber93 3 months ago
Like many other people, Krugman can't understand that the people on the other side of the argument actually have good reasons for opposing his ideas and aren't just evil or lying. When he conducts polls like this, that show that the Canadian health care system actually isn't that popular, he exposes that he was so ignorant that he couldn't see beyond his own point of view and makes himself look foolish.
EGarrett01 3 months ago
For emergency care, Canada has a good system, for secondary injuries it is still good. For elective, it is a joke. But overall, probably better than the U.S. Free market would be better than both, however.
UponInfinity 4 months ago 2