Bhikkhuni Ordination

The venerable Ajahn Sujato from Santi Forest Monastery talks about the full ordination of Buddhist Nuns (Bhikkunis) something about to become a reality in Australia. Gender equality at last!

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[pyrotek55]

How do i get ordinated as a bhikkhu? I want to become a full-fledged monk, but i dont know how...

[Undech01]

Bhante Gunaratana, Maha Thera of the Sri Lankan order of all of North America has 3 fully ordained nuns at his temple. and he also supports abolishing the eight heavy rules. His views on their origin are similar to the bhante speaking here.

sadu sadu sadu bhante Sujato!

[brainmarinade01]

@pyrotek55 if you want to ordain, you can contact your local monastery and stay as a guest, with the intention to ordain. call them up/ write to them, speak to someone of your intentions, and then arrange a time for you to come and stay (usually based on their space avaliable). I'm staying at Bodhinyana this Feb with the intention of ordination myself. Good luck with it!

[cittamagga]

The highest respect to Buddha is Bhikkhu, Bhikkhuni, Upasika and Upasaka entering the right path, practicing according to Dhamma.

bhikkhu vā bhikkhunī vā upāsako vā upāsikā vā dhammānudhammappaṭipanno viharati sāmīcippaṭipanno anudhammacārī, so tathāgataṃ sakkaroti garuṃ karoti māneti pūjeti apaciyati, paramāya pūjāya.

一位比丘、比丘尼、男居士、女居士進入正法, 方向正確地進入正道, 依法而行, 就是對如來作最高的照顧、恭敬、尊重、供養。[Dighanik­aya, Parinibbanasuttam]

[Dice3000]

would like to see more talks from this monk !

[yfahlin]

@orlando098 I doubt it, as long as there is Buddhism and the Buddha sasana, the male lineage will be there. Unlike the female line, which the Buddha as hesitant to ordain a the beginning. You must remember that Ananda, pleaded many times before the Buddha agreed on women ordination.

[yfahlin]

@orlando098 Ok, let's use the word karma in lieu of destiny for your sake. If it is the karma of the person to be a legitimate ordinated Bhikhunni, then, she would have been born a man. Gender is no big deal in many issues but in this case, unless you want to go against the vinaya, please go ahead and form heavy karma.

[orlando098]

@yfahlin

I don't see what destiny has to do with it; surely Buddhism is at least as much about personal effort and responsibility as it is just about "destinty". And why should gender be such a big deal (so bhikkhunis can't be ordained by bhikkus, according to you) - it is all one sangha, no? Anyway, here is Bhikku Bodhi's paper - thubtenchodron do t org/BuddhistNunsMonasticLife/r­evivalbhkni_final4.pdf

[orlando098]

@yfahlin

I just think it's male chauvinism. If for some bizarre reason the male Theravada sangha died out but not the female one, I am sure would-be monks wouldn't just put up with the idea that only women could be monastics for the rest of time

[hepabepa]

@orlando098 If Bhikku Bodhi wrote a paper showing how it is possible, then maybe he should rewrite the Tipitaka. Compassion has nothing to do with ordination of bhikhunnis. Rules foster discipline. Without discipline, attainment is not possible, not even to the level of a stream enterer, let alone an arahata

[yfahlin]

@orlando098 Becoming a monk makes it easier to focus oneself 100% to the practice of the dhamma and the rules laid down by the Buddha. Only when one is a good, virtuous one, one who has accumulated the full parami, will he be able to attain arahantship. If one is destined to become a monk, one would be born a man, not a woman. Being able to accept that fact is learning acceptance to the way things are and not to fight it. That is not the way of the Buddha.