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[scottduncan44]

@scottduncan44 There are very accurate records of lend lease materials. Prominent were some 45,000 radio sets. This made an almost unimagined difference to Soviet operation control. They began armored combat without radio's and used flags to signal from tank to tank. This greatly accounted for the loss of 10,ooo's of BT-7's and T-26"s as well as early two man turret T-34's.

[Echeque5]

@RedPower012 - Son, I'm sorry you are so upset and feel the childish need to make personal attacks, but that doesn't change history and somehow make you suddenly correct.  "Panzer Battles". Read. Learn.

[riverman1949]

@Spadadiforza Good man ! Thank you. My 19 year old cousin was shot down & killed while minelaying in a Stirling bomber. The week before, he had parachuted to safety when his previous plane crashed.

[Spadadiforza]

@riverman1949 This is why I conceded, you had every right to set me straight. Godspeed to your lost loved ones.

[riverman1949]

@Spadadiforza I would not think that there was a competition going on between the USAAF & the RAF. Neither should we have one now. The sacrifice made by Bomber Command is still a very sensitive issue in the UK & Commonwealth. Two members of my family died as Stirling crew members. One 19 the other 21.

[Spadadiforza]

@riverman1949 I stand corrected with respect to the tonnage dropped by 8th USAAF over Germany proper being greater than the RAF. It was the USAAF over Nazi occupied Europe that bested the numbers the RAF put up. This is also not an attempt at disrespecting those who gave their lives whatsoever. Just a misguided statement.

[riverman1949]

@Spadadiforza You went to the first chart in Wickipedia which refers to total bombs dropped, not just on Germany. Additionally yor previous comments (a) ignored the RAF contribution and then (b) sais that 8th Air Force contribution was massive in comparison. Clearly not so and an insult to the 55,000 crewmen who gave their lives bombing Germany. Again a bigger total than the 8th AirForce.

[Spadadiforza]

@riverman1949

I don't know where you get your data but a source I found on a routine search yielded tonnage of bombs dropped USAAF = 1,463,423 vs RAF 1,307,117

Bomber sorties 754,818 vs RAF 687,462.

Also note the fact that the US had a pacific theater of operations and a much larger industrial base.

[riverman1949]

@Spadadiforza The RAF dropped 964,644 tons of bombes on Germany in WW2. The US 8th Airforce 623,418 tons. How then was the US operation bigger?

[Spadadiforza]

@riverman1949 The US 8th was not alone in bombing German industry, but pound for pount, the USAF 8th was a vast operation when compared to the RAF campaign.

[riverman1949]

@Spadadiforza I wasn't aware that the Eighth Air Force were on their own bombing Germany. I mistakenly thought that the RAF had a hand too. Silly me!

[Spadadiforza]

@HeirofGojira91 Even the Soviet T34 tanks had raw welds holding the tank hull together, no grinding to defined crisp edges like on the German Panther tanks. My point is all of these factors combined contributed to the demise of the overextended German armed forces and its military industrial complex.