Just a vid showing that there is no mention of meteorites in the Bible but in so doing, I show you a few sites that are very useful in doing research ref the Bible.
Good sites to bookmark:
Online searchable bible with Greek and Hebrew lexicons built in AND multiple versions AND commentaries.
blueletterbible.org
Online searchable Strong's Greek and Hebrew lexicons.
http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html
Online searchable Septuagint (Greek translation of the Old Testament)
http://www.ecmarsh.com/lxx/
Online searchable Latin Vulgate bible
http://www.drbo.org/lvb/
Happy hunting.
@krononomikon hope that made sense.
TruthSurge 7 months ago
@krononomikon one last thing, ancient people often believed the myths of other nations as fact. Clement of Rome in defending the general resurrection cites the phoenix as a real bird that dies and resurrects and he finds this compelling evidence that god would resurrect the believers one day. So, it is entirely possible that John believed dragons WERE real but I believe in this case, the dragon, the woman, etc. do represent nations/emperors/etc.
TruthSurge 7 months ago
@krononomikon same goes for the pillars of the earth. it is NOT a symbol or figure of speech. They actually believed the earth was flat, surrounding by water and resting upon pillars. We see tons of verses saying "pillars of the earth" and that god put them under the earth when the earth was formed etc. Shaking the pillars of the earth. I'm just telling you that what you THINK is symbolic in the Bible, may not be. nothing more than that. I plan to do a vid on this also.
TruthSurge 7 months ago
@krononomikon Yes, I agree. There IS symbolism in the apokalypsis of John. Sifting through what is and isn't is where the rub lies. Some items are clearly representative of others. Some are simply literal beliefs. The people at that time believed that stars were actually tiny points of light no further away than the sun and moon. They were all affixed to the firmament (dome) that covered the earth and as such, could "fall" to earth.
TruthSurge 7 months ago
@krononomikon "I said that it was shown to be symbolic" If you find symbols in things that the author never intended, then good for you. If you want to interpret a writing in a different way than the author intended, good for you. The problem is, you completely devalue the work in so doing and basically make up your own stories about what it means. You say it COULDN'T mean that stars really fall to earth so I'll just say it's symbolic. Kind of like "god did it".
TruthSurge 7 months ago
@TruthSurge I said that it was shown to be symbolic, whether that's what the person who originally said it thought of it to be. Remember that they were merely carried along by what the Holy Spirit told them to say. As far as it being symbolic, and about studying, please, if you've studied the Bible, do you really think that Revelation 12:4 for instance is talking about an actual dragon up in the sky, flinging stars at the earth with his tail? Recognize the symbolism all throughout that book.
krononomikon 7 months ago
@krononomikon get on google, look up mesopotamian cosmology. then learn. thanks.
TruthSurge 7 months ago
@krononomikon "Even so about stars falling from the sky and heavenly bodies being shaken, a lot of that though is symbolic as you study,"
No, it's not. It is literal. This is what the people of Mesopotamia actually believed 2000 years ago. Please, do some more research because you are dead wrong here. The Christians have SOLD you the belief that it is not literal because that would mean God's word was inaccurate as stars cannot fall to earth. It was a literal belief at that time.
TruthSurge 7 months ago
Even so about stars falling from the sky and heavenly bodies being shaken, a lot of that though is symbolic as you study, seeing that there are in fact certain euphemisms and figures of speech. That one in particular is shown to be symbolic (whether realized that way by the first prophet who said it) in Revelation. :)
Although I do believe that men are men and understood things their own way, but it's good to come upon things to test you, 'cause as you stand firm, you'll learn and be tempered.
krononomikon 7 months ago
Stars falling to the earth may have meant meteorites (and not symbolically). There are many people today that think shooting stars are actually stars due to their bright nature. I would not be surprised if they thought the same. I am not saying it is a figure of speech, I think they very much thought that shooting stars were falling stars. The reason we may have not translated it to meteorite is the beauty of the language itself. I would prefer it not be changed and I am an atheist.
FrogSplatScience 3 years ago