Paul McCarthy - Painter (preview)

well i was talking about art in general. Hey do you remember when you brought up Kinkade, a painter when the discussion was about McCarthy who is a perfomance artist. Yeah the ideas of beauty, being commercial, and being artsy can be found in any medium.

How exactly do you know that? And just why would McCarthy do that? Have you even listened to the McCarthy interviews with Family Tyranny and what not? He has SUBSTANCE. So far, all your argument for Kinkade has been that he spends more time on paintings.....so essentially more time equals more meaningful? That makes no sense

The thing about PM is that he needs you more than you need him. It's not really a criticism, more a statement about the condition of conceptual/performative art. Without the contextual apparatus of society, it's all rather meaningless,but almost everything is like that. Beauty is essentiallu meaningless, too...but still useful, as say, a sign of good genes. As always, implicate yourself. and do it with style. That's arph.

So are you saying that you don't like beautiful things, what is your point?

I like beautiful things but I know that it doesn't possess any true meaning or content worthy of my time or appreciation. That's all really, and I support ChannelCassie's argument....I'd take this guy's stuff as art than a dumb fool like Thomas Kinkade who paints "pretty things" for the masses.

Just because something is beautiful doesn't mean that its not meaningful. And yes Kinkade is commercial as it gets.He has an amazing talent to create beautiful and pretty things. Would you rather him throw condiments on a canvas and end up with something that looks like a child's finger-painting. I'm sure the latter would be much more pleasing to the artsy mind, but there is still meaning in his work. He probably doesn't view his art as "work" but still a release from the stress of everyday life

I'm sorry, then what, in the realm of ART, has a mind worth pleasing other than an "ARTsy" mind? In addition, you say "But there is meaning in his work" yes, you are right, there is meaning; completely horrible useless meaning BUT IT'S SO PRETTY LOOK AT THAT FINAL FANTASY-ESQUE COLORATION WITH PHOTOSHOP BLURRINESS!

McCarthy could never do what Kinkade does. Kinkade could do what McCarthy does in a minute. A Kinkade painting takes hours, and a McCarthy painting takes minutes. Yeah real meaning. Like I said to the other girl, if you are that against beauy you should listen to no real music. Your favorite song should be comprised of random noises that don't have any type of melody. (ex: clock ticking, dogs barking, men sneezing, glass breaking) You should love it though because "beauty in art is meaningless"

And lets not bring music into this as that is a completely different medium, sorry if you're running out of debate ammo. If that run on example of sound effects you're saying is what I listen to because it's so damn obscure and you can't wrap your mind around obscurity, then I'm afraid you're no fit for any kind of worthwhile input in the art world.

If someone throws condiments at a canvas and creates something that can actually make a significant statement about modern day society like Paul McCarthy does, then that individual wins. At least over Thomas Kinkade who obviously needs a lot of stress taken out of his multi million dollar life.