Context is Key to Bible Interpretation. (2Peter 3:9 Exegeted by James White)

When you are reading the bible, always keep the context in mind (who is being spoken to, about, what is being adressed, etc.) God may reveal little gems like these...

(This deals with 2Peter 3:9 which is used by many to advocate a universal atonement made by Jesus Christ. By reading the words in context and performing sound exegesis, the people who Peter is writing the epistle to and is referring to in 2Peter 3:9 is revealed.)

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[BlazingSky2006]

What video software do you use to make your videos?

[LaneCh]

This is one made by CrossTv (crosstv(.)com)

[EveryTribeOutreach]

Did you have to get their permission first before you posted their videos? I don't care, but some ministries like Igniter Media are really possessive with their materials, and they'll get people's channels suspended. I don't want that to happen to me if I were to post some Cross TV videos on my channel...that's the only reason I'm asking.

[LaneCh]

I have permission. They are very gracious.

[ihaveaverybadcold]

so can God's elect be someone who doesnt believe in election but believes and repents,goes through the gate and walks the narrow way??

[LaneCh]

Believing in election doesn't mean you're elect. Believing in Christ does.

[CBALLEN]

Even as an Arminian believes,God knows both groups the lost and found before time.Since God has knowledge of His own,He is not fruitlessly waiting on people to come to Christ that He knows will not.This makes all the verses, where Arminians believe God is wanting all be saved mean something other than what they believe it means on the surface.ALL people or whole world can only be determined by context in every case and in every case the scripture interprets who they are.

[gsschoenfeld]

Once again we see James White getting hyper literal about word choices made exclusively to a cherry picked version of the bible. In this case it seems to be the NIV which best supported his contextual argument here. White normally pimps the slimy NASB translation because he is involved with the publication of that translation. But apparently he was out-voted on how to translate this one so he has to run to the competition for help.

[lessingtom]

Part 2: Why would the Holy Ghost inspire Peter to express God's wish that none of the elect should perish but that all should come to repentance when they have already been chosen unto salvation before the foundation of the world? If it'd been God's eternal decree that the elect would never perish, even before the foundation of the world, why make the statement: "It is not His wish that any of the elect should perish?" That's weird, but then again, Calvinism is really weird.

[lessingtom]

Part 1: If the "you" in verse 9 refers to the elect only and not the entire human race, it would mean that the elect are perishable and indeed the only ones that are perishable. The fact that Peter says "not wishing that any should perish" proves that some are indeed going to perish but that it is not God's desire that they should. Why would God deem the elect perishable when He has already chosen them to an irrevocable salvation before the foundation of the world?

[Personmr]

could somone put deuteronomy 13:14-13:16 in context for me? i REALLY don't know what that is about.

[faithandpractice]

@CBALLEN 1. I don't study the scripture? I dare say that I can debate FOR the C-ist position as well as you can (something I've done). 2. Not only have I studied but I have been the director and main teacher for 2 Bible schools. 3. Modern Christianity? It is your views that are new my friend. It was Augustine that popularized your views. 4. You did not answer my question. You can not answer the question because it voids your position.

[CBALLEN]

@faithandpractice My friend ,you are a product of "modern Churchianity",scripture only means what you have heard others say it means,you don't study scripture you just parrot it in an unBiblical way.

[CBALLEN]

@faithandpractice So God doesn't know who will be saved before time?Really? Are you an Open theist?The scripture tells us in no uncertain terms that He has chosen His own before time for His good purpose.God hardens the hearts of Goats to determine what they will do in order to accomplish His eternal decree.Check out Exodus and read about Pharaoh.In fact God turned all the Egyptians against the Hebrews to begin with.

[faithandpractice]

@CBALLEN Your comment is based on presupositions that I don't share. "So why would God be patiently waiting on people to come to Jesus when He knows it's impossible for them to come?" I don't share the thought that it's impossible for anyone to come until Jesus returns. Now that I've answered your ? How about mine. Why does God need to harden someones heart if they can not come to Him unless He makes it possible? Why does He need to harden the hearts of the goats?