Moral Panics over Homosexuality - A.E. #584

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Episode: #584
21 December, 2008
Topic: Moral Panics. Jen talks about perceived threats to social order and its relation to mass hysteria.

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[420simpson]

its better to have 2 dads or 2 moms than having no mom or dad like all the orphans who are being denied loving parent by religious people who are obsessed with other peoples sex life. for real what is it with religious people and sex. they are against masterbation, and certain sex positions, and certain sexual partners, sex before marriage, and then they are molesting children. what is it with sex and religion. its just sex and that is all. just like sleeping is just sleeping nothing else.

[KarinMikazuki]

I dont get the "we must make babies" arguement.. banning gay marriage will

get gay men to impregnate straight women and gay women to start suddenly fucking a bunch of dudes?

come on...

[ChaoticRupture]

I desagree a little bit with this particular point of view. kid's are gonna be harmed if adopted by gay parents.....they are gonna be harmed....By religious nuts.

[HxCDeathMetalHead]

Don't you think if there was a God, he would help their followers put up a decent argument on this show?

[Clear404]

If you think it matters whether sexuality is fixed or alterable, you're homophobic. For why does it matter? It would only matter if there was something bad about homosexuality such that it needed excusing. If there's nothing bad about homosexuality, then it doesn't matter whether it is alterable or fixed.

Of course, most people are homophobic at some level and that's why this 'is it a choice' issue keeps being the one everyone focuses on. Sad really.

[GrahamChapman]

@Pigroota And it's quite obvious I've wasted my time feeding a troll. Fuck off.

[Pigroota]

@GrahamChapman "numberous" huh? OK. It's obvious I am speaking with a fuckwit here. Byeeee

[GrahamChapman]

@Pigroota I never claimed anything else, moorhuhn... Looks like I'll have to spell my point out to you: There are numberous ways to identify a person. Some cannot simply be seen, (genetical ethnicity, sexuality,) but they can be visially identified anyway, (ethic man has black skin, gay man dates men,) unless covered up (MJ looked about as ethnical as Dilbert, some gay men date women to cover up their sexuality). You get my point now, anglo-pilferer?

[Pigroota]

@GrahamChapman "He was genetically black". Exactly moron

[GrahamChapman]

@Pigroota ...You are a troll aren't you? :/

Q1: No, not eyecatching like that. Q2: Well, there is "loads and loads" of evidence, so... Q3: Bisexuals don't change their sexuality, either, they just have a 50% chance probability of falling for someone of a new/different gender between cases. Q4&5: Look at pictures of the young MJ, compare to his more recent looks and the looks of his family. He was genetically black, but he was white-skinned in the end... Huh? You're using logic?

[Pigroota]

@GrahamChapman Oh you mean eyecatching like the claim that "no gay person has ever turned straight"? Oh and the claim that there is "loads and loads" of evidence? Oh and the assumption that the only people that switch their sexuality are confused bisexuals? Oh and the claim that MJ is (was) in fact white? Oh and eyecatching like the way you conclude that I said MJ "turned white"? I never said that. Oh right... you mean eyecatching like that? I am just using your logic pal

[GrahamChapman]

@Pigroota Are you serious right now or are you trolling? I mean, the dissonance is pretty eyecatching between claiming that gay people turn straight, especially with there being loads and loads of scientific evidence that supports that sexuality is dependant on genes, prenatal hormones, and brain structure (though no conclusive evidence has been found yet), and pointing out that MJ's DNA didn't change just because he "turned white"...