Is God an overly complex explanation for the universe?

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[grammastola]

overide1234 says, "The cause we are talking about has to be more complex, because it interacts with the creation it created..."

Absolutely not. In fact, I offered multiple reasons why that does not logically follow -- and if you watched the video, you know that.

Moreover, your statement is simply unjustified. There is no principle of logic or science from which it follows. That argument is entirely ad hoc; i.e., it was created to justify a point of view rather than proceeding from logic.

[grammastola]

"I think the problem rests on the word 'God' itself, which essentially refers to the masculine principle in the universe. Clearly there is a feminine principle as well..."

I don't think that's clear at all, nor did my argument assume that God is a masculine principle. Rather, this argument only requires that God be the creator, regardless of whether God is masculine, feminine, or neither.

[SeraphsWitness]

I feel like I know you're entire house after watching these videos! haha

[grammastola]

"I feel like I know you're entire house after watching these videos! haha"

Heh. Actually, some of these videos were shot in my old office building, my old apartment, various hotel rooms, and other locales. I would shoot some from within a park setting if I could only guarantee that there'd be peace and quiet.

[5micky2]

I'm not religious but I can see a way for you to strengthen your arguments. Look up on YouTube the numerous videos on Fractals and their discoverer Benoit Mandelbrot. Using a simple marthematical formula and a computer, Mandelbrot was the first man on the planet to show us how infinitely complex and majestic structures can be created from virtually nothing. If a Godlike being exists, this is its hands at work. A good place to start: Arthur Clarke - Fractals - The Colors Of Infinity 1 of 6

[alessandrogiordano]

God does not have to be more complex than the universe, the universe is a complex storage of knowledge of the enitre cosmos including Gog "perhanps". Eg. ppl created machines which are more complex than people right? the peo-le have a greater knowldege because they created the machines.

[TamaThePeck]

If God knows everything about the entire universe, but is not equal to that universe, then he is more complex. The simplest means of storage for ALL information regarding any particular particle is the particle itself. Therefore, an all-knowing God would have to be as complex or more complex than the things he knows about.

[delbert0504]

this is really good video. It's always encouraging to see someone who explains the concept of God with reason and logic and doesn't just accept or deny based on logical fallacy.

[ScrapGoldBass]

great vid

[lobster123456789]

nice.

[AzathothianBrew]

I think the problem rests on the word "God" itself, which essentially refers to the masculine principle in the universe. Clearly there is a feminine principle as well, and I feel that the word "God" doesn't quite give the feminine principle due credit. In comparison to other culture's notion of "God", the Native Americans came up with the term "Great Spirit", the Chinese conceived the notion of the "Tao", etc. These conceptions reconcile the mascaline/feminine principles in a nameless anonymity.