A mysterious man is trying to convince us that truth is relative, and while there are circumstances where one can see evidence of absolute truth, it still fits in a relativistic framework... Which do you choose?
Now there is going to be a lot of disagreements , I am more than willing to discuss things in private so we have more clarification. There is a lot that I couldn’t explain that I would be happy to discuss with you, as I am sure there is a lot you would like to flesh out and discuss with me so that way we understand each other a lot better. I will however, not further discuss it here. I am not posting as a form of entertainment. We can discuss our worldviews formally via messages if you wish.
Because a Christian theistic worldview does not leave itself open to a subjective search for truth, but rather the absolute objective creator in the flesh says “I am the truth” I believe it has implications to the way we view truth and relativism respectively.
He has done something that identifies with the impossible by human standards (dying, rising and staying alive) and reality has we know it (The natural decay of all things) and thus points to His divinity (i.e. Him as the creator). Of course, if He is the creator, then all truth would precede from Him. This has to do with the self-sustaining implications of a theistic worldview; if there is a God who created us then all absolutes would objectively come from Him.
I am coming from a Christian theistic worldview whereby because I hold historical validity behind the resurrection of Jesus, that becomes a premise of validity behind Jesus’ self-disclosure of God incarnate, whereby because Jesus did something that no other human has done (dying, rising and staying alive)
@NathanForster91 is grass actually grass? And I don't mean in the linguistic sense but in the actual existence and species itself as it presents itself in real life.
Yes, grass is actually grass. It doesn't matter if you call it something else, or you are from a different planet, its still grass and its here. That is absolute.
Is someone evil for killing a child molester... well thats relative. Some are against all death, and some don't mind really bad things not existing.
Give me one absolute truth? something not matter what we learn in a thousand years, or if we can see at a quantum level or beyond would change that knowledge. The absolute truth you give me says "we are the pinnacle of human evolution" even though only 85 years ago we though the milky way was the only galaxy. Now we know there are 400 Billion, yes please, give me one absolute that we never change, the understanding of it never change......please one!
Now there is going to be a lot of disagreements , I am more than willing to discuss things in private so we have more clarification. There is a lot that I couldn’t explain that I would be happy to discuss with you, as I am sure there is a lot you would like to flesh out and discuss with me so that way we understand each other a lot better. I will however, not further discuss it here. I am not posting as a form of entertainment. We can discuss our worldviews formally via messages if you wish.
NathanForster91 16 hours ago
Because a Christian theistic worldview does not leave itself open to a subjective search for truth, but rather the absolute objective creator in the flesh says “I am the truth” I believe it has implications to the way we view truth and relativism respectively.
NathanForster91 16 hours ago
He has done something that identifies with the impossible by human standards (dying, rising and staying alive) and reality has we know it (The natural decay of all things) and thus points to His divinity (i.e. Him as the creator). Of course, if He is the creator, then all truth would precede from Him. This has to do with the self-sustaining implications of a theistic worldview; if there is a God who created us then all absolutes would objectively come from Him.
NathanForster91 16 hours ago
I am coming from a Christian theistic worldview whereby because I hold historical validity behind the resurrection of Jesus, that becomes a premise of validity behind Jesus’ self-disclosure of God incarnate, whereby because Jesus did something that no other human has done (dying, rising and staying alive)
NathanForster91 16 hours ago
I appreciate where you are coming from. However, we are discussing from two completely different worldviews which makes this hard for both of us.
NathanForster91 16 hours ago
@NathanForster91 is grass actually grass? And I don't mean in the linguistic sense but in the actual existence and species itself as it presents itself in real life.
Yes, grass is actually grass. It doesn't matter if you call it something else, or you are from a different planet, its still grass and its here. That is absolute.
Is someone evil for killing a child molester... well thats relative. Some are against all death, and some don't mind really bad things not existing.
Both can exist
eddieisfiction 1 day ago
Give me one absolute truth? something not matter what we learn in a thousand years, or if we can see at a quantum level or beyond would change that knowledge. The absolute truth you give me says "we are the pinnacle of human evolution" even though only 85 years ago we though the milky way was the only galaxy. Now we know there are 400 Billion, yes please, give me one absolute that we never change, the understanding of it never change......please one!
benaberry 1 day ago