Ethics of a Changing Wage Gap

Hanna Rosin: New data on the rise of women
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZymFMmpOa0

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Nonprofits & Activism

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• Wage Gap
• Ethics
• Future
• Maternity
• Paternity
• Leave

[thecryptqueen]

As a childfree person, I think one of the nice things to have would be an amount of personal time you could take off the job that was equivalent to maternity/paternity leave. It'd kick in after, say, maybe a year on the job or something, long when you're past that point of 'nah, this isn't for me - I think I'm gonna go do something else'. BUT, anyone who takes even part of the paternity/maternity leave can't have the personal leave, too, on top of it - make sure it's not stackable.

[alowlyapprentice]

@thecryptqueen Non-stacking leave. I like a lot. We would need to get employers to look past their bottom line. I assume many would rather have you get what you get now for personal leave and not give you more.

If we could be more like France in this matter it would work in the US. Other countries try hard to make sure you take your leave. that might deal with the employer issue I just brought up.

However, in WoW I dislike non-stacking buffs. XD

[thecryptqueen]

@alowlyapprentice Well, you have to figure, if I know I've got a good break coming to me and I'm not being (essentially) discriminating against because I prefer my womb to be unoccupied, then I'll be happy to work my ass off. As it stands, somehow it seems like those with kids are more important in the pecking order, even if they do the exact same job as me, just because they've sprogged, which isn't cool.

[alowlyapprentice]

@thecryptqueen I've seen varying types of desire expressed by employers when it comes to spawning humans. One where having a family is desired and one where it isn't. You can be beholden to an employer and might be considered stable if you have children. Or you when you don;t have children you are considered flexible with no ties or commitments that might prevent you from going the extra mile.

[Curas1]

I hate questions like this because to me there is no right answer.

I want economic egalitarianism for as many as possable without a entitlement society but I also want negative stimulus for having any children at all because the population needs to be drasticly reduced but with the highest quality of life per individual.

Only when a high ratio of wilderness and then rural area to surburban then urban hub is achieved can a biowaste/passive renewable localized energy/infrastructure happen.

[stealthbadger]

@alowlyapprentice I wouldn't say anything makes it ok, it's just interesting that these questions usually get raised in the societies least able to handle them. :D

[baghead777]

@alowlyapprentice Survival of the fittest. Morality is subjective. I help people I like. Not everybody. You reap what you sow.

[binhthanhvo]

@rosskay In East Germany the wage gap between men and women is almost 0. In West Germany it's almost 20-25% (or more). The difference between them? E. Germany has a large network of affordable childcare centers all over so women don't have to choose between having kids and working. This pretty much proves you are right re: socialized childcare. I had a video about it way back when.

[rosskay]

@alowlyapprentice "But what is the obligation of those that are not having children? I can make a case for self interest in having well reared and well adjusted youth and eventually adults in our society." why should those who don't have children have any obligation? socialized childcar would solve that problem, as people who want to take care of children would get involved in that, again, it respects both people's life choices. its pretty simple.

[ScentedNectar]

There is no such responsibility, either to breed or to do something in its stead just because others made a different choice. A benefit of not breeding is having more time to work. Facts aren't always fair. People have to choose between kids or more money, which would make them happier?

I find that even though I've chosen not to breed genetically, I'd hope that I sometimes influence the world a bit memetically instead, sharing/spreading what I feel are good ideas, and speaking against bad ones.