I'm (ironically) glad to see this video. I visited the Pennsylvania Ren faire on 8/2/11 and was saddened by the poor environment/treatment of the falcons and the elephant. Those who say that this film shows NO welfare abuses are horribly mistaken. I was horrified to see the handler carrying a bull hook the entire 8 -10 hours that this poor animal worked without breaks. A BULL HOOK? I mean come on...you are all idiots if you don't think that animal isnt beaten to be controlled.
It is a sad fact that animals are abused. And rowinmorrison has every right to be concerned. But id have to agree with tjnadrie and say the home movie does not show that this animal is being abused in any way. I'm sure it gets constant vet visits. And if there where abuse i'm sure the vet would call the authorities. Lets not jump to conclusions people.
@tjnadrie Someday you'll wake up from your delusion and understand what you've been supporting is wrong. Many former circus trainers have seen the light, you might too - someday.
@tjnadrie You're just misinformed, so come back after you learn the facts. I had to even educate you on the gender of this elephant, so it's not surprising you're clueless on other facts. The fact is that Lady Wrinkles is kept chained or in a small pen at night. Keeping a social, roaming elephant confined and forced to give rides day after day IS abuse, no matter how may times you say "loved" and "healthy."
@tjnadrie I have studied elephants and understand their needs, which can never be met when being used as a side show at a fair. I realize that you see them as ways to make money, so we'll never agree on many things. But I suggest if you plan to make your living off animals who have no choice, you at least learn their gender and their basic needs. You clearlhy are very confused about both.
@tjnadrie are you claiming that this elephant was NOT chained up or kept in a small pen at night? Where did she spend the night - free roaming? Better check up on YOUR facts before claiming others don't know what they're talking about.
And, no need to resort to insults when confronted with the facts. Please calm down, take a deep breath, and read up on the needs of elephants. I guarantee that you will agree that "Lady Wrinkles" deserves better than life as an amusement park ride.
@tjnadrie If you worked with "him," you don't know much about elephants at all, because this is an elephant cow - a female.
You also don't know a thing about elephants' needs. For elephants, family is everything. This elephant was separated from her famliy at a young age to be put to work in the entertainment industry. She is kept alone, which is extremely stressful for elephants, and dominated with bullhooks. So yes, seeing this elephant in such a state made me very, very sad.
I'm (ironically) glad to see this video. I visited the Pennsylvania Ren faire on 8/2/11 and was saddened by the poor environment/treatment of the falcons and the elephant. Those who say that this film shows NO welfare abuses are horribly mistaken. I was horrified to see the handler carrying a bull hook the entire 8 -10 hours that this poor animal worked without breaks. A BULL HOOK? I mean come on...you are all idiots if you don't think that animal isnt beaten to be controlled.
43Coda 6 months ago
It is a sad fact that animals are abused. And rowinmorrison has every right to be concerned. But id have to agree with tjnadrie and say the home movie does not show that this animal is being abused in any way. I'm sure it gets constant vet visits. And if there where abuse i'm sure the vet would call the authorities. Lets not jump to conclusions people.
FlapjackJackflap 1 year ago
@tjnadrie Someday you'll wake up from your delusion and understand what you've been supporting is wrong. Many former circus trainers have seen the light, you might too - someday.
rowanmorrison 1 year ago
@tjnadrie You're just misinformed, so come back after you learn the facts. I had to even educate you on the gender of this elephant, so it's not surprising you're clueless on other facts. The fact is that Lady Wrinkles is kept chained or in a small pen at night. Keeping a social, roaming elephant confined and forced to give rides day after day IS abuse, no matter how may times you say "loved" and "healthy."
rowanmorrison 1 year ago
@tjnadrie I have studied elephants and understand their needs, which can never be met when being used as a side show at a fair. I realize that you see them as ways to make money, so we'll never agree on many things. But I suggest if you plan to make your living off animals who have no choice, you at least learn their gender and their basic needs. You clearlhy are very confused about both.
rowanmorrison 1 year ago
@tjnadrie are you claiming that this elephant was NOT chained up or kept in a small pen at night? Where did she spend the night - free roaming? Better check up on YOUR facts before claiming others don't know what they're talking about.
And, no need to resort to insults when confronted with the facts. Please calm down, take a deep breath, and read up on the needs of elephants. I guarantee that you will agree that "Lady Wrinkles" deserves better than life as an amusement park ride.
rowanmorrison 1 year ago
@tjnadrie If you worked with "him," you don't know much about elephants at all, because this is an elephant cow - a female.
You also don't know a thing about elephants' needs. For elephants, family is everything. This elephant was separated from her famliy at a young age to be put to work in the entertainment industry. She is kept alone, which is extremely stressful for elephants, and dominated with bullhooks. So yes, seeing this elephant in such a state made me very, very sad.
rowanmorrison 1 year ago