@dahgutone There is a difference between fucking up your gerar and having a crash. There was nothing wrong with Andys bike. Bjarne Riis said so after the stage because he tested it himself.
I'm not saying that if Contador didn't take advantage of that chain drop, Andy would have won the Tour de France.
That would be an hypothesis contrary to fact.
Contador is a strong climber, and probably as strong as strong as Andy. Contador is a obvious better TT rider, he wouldn't need to take advantage of that accidental chain drop to take yellow.
Contador was NOT in shape for 2011's TDF. He was doing the unthinkable and won the Giro d'talia and it was obvious that he would not become a podium GC contender.
Contador wasn't as good as he used to be, winning the TDF, the Giro, and the Veulta in one season, especially without the dope.
It's the unwritten rule that Armstrong and Ulrich established during the days where it showed who's the REAL better cyclist.
@dahgutone How many times should Contador wait for Andy? Did Andy wait for Contador in 2011? No. Andy didn't crash. he fucked up his gears. Changing gears properly, going downhill and riding an acceptable timetrial is part of being a top pro cyclist. If you can't do those things blame yourself, not the guy who beat you.
Contador knew something was wrong. There is no way he got that far up ahead of Andy after Andy attacked and fell back.
He knew what happened when they were at the peak of the mountain and never bothered slowing down.
They have team radios that are constantly feeding in information and yet in the end Contador took yellow meaning he did not even bother waiting for Andy.
If there is a problem on the bike, and you are a GC contender, you do not take advantage of that problem. You slow down the echelon and wait until that contender is back. The TDF is about who the better rider is, and not fortunate/unfortunate events.
Lance Armstrong and Jan Ulrich had their times during the TDF
Armstrong crashed in 2003 stage 15. Jan waited.
Jan crashed on a decent down a cliff with Armstrong behind him.
@dahgutone There is a difference between fucking up your gerar and having a crash. There was nothing wrong with Andys bike. Bjarne Riis said so after the stage because he tested it himself.
baroh2413 2 weeks ago
@baroh2413
I'm not saying that if Contador didn't take advantage of that chain drop, Andy would have won the Tour de France.
That would be an hypothesis contrary to fact.
Contador is a strong climber, and probably as strong as strong as Andy. Contador is a obvious better TT rider, he wouldn't need to take advantage of that accidental chain drop to take yellow.
dahgutone 2 weeks ago
@baroh2413
Contador was NOT in shape for 2011's TDF. He was doing the unthinkable and won the Giro d'talia and it was obvious that he would not become a podium GC contender.
Contador wasn't as good as he used to be, winning the TDF, the Giro, and the Veulta in one season, especially without the dope.
It's the unwritten rule that Armstrong and Ulrich established during the days where it showed who's the REAL better cyclist.
dahgutone 2 weeks ago
@dahgutone How many times should Contador wait for Andy? Did Andy wait for Contador in 2011? No. Andy didn't crash. he fucked up his gears. Changing gears properly, going downhill and riding an acceptable timetrial is part of being a top pro cyclist. If you can't do those things blame yourself, not the guy who beat you.
baroh2413 2 weeks ago
@dahgutone hes not good with sportsmanship
NAD559 3 weeks ago
Contador knew something was wrong. There is no way he got that far up ahead of Andy after Andy attacked and fell back.
He knew what happened when they were at the peak of the mountain and never bothered slowing down.
They have team radios that are constantly feeding in information and yet in the end Contador took yellow meaning he did not even bother waiting for Andy.
dahgutone 3 weeks ago
@NAD559
Those were good times.
I thought Armstrong and Ulrich built a foundation for this unwritten rule for the future of the sport.
Apparently young Contador wasn't watching.
dahgutone 3 weeks ago
It tends to be a un-written rule in cycling.
If there is a problem on the bike, and you are a GC contender, you do not take advantage of that problem. You slow down the echelon and wait until that contender is back. The TDF is about who the better rider is, and not fortunate/unfortunate events.
Lance Armstrong and Jan Ulrich had their times during the TDF
Armstrong crashed in 2003 stage 15. Jan waited.
Jan crashed on a decent down a cliff with Armstrong behind him.
Lance waited.
dahgutone 3 weeks ago
Vino saw Andy's chain pop and he stopped attacking.
Contador on the other hand...
dahgutone 3 weeks ago
They both are essentially riding the same bike.
And Contador is also running on Reds.
dahgutone 3 weeks ago