Sergio Bendixen, Hillary Clinton's pollster and resident Latino expert, told the New Yorker after her win in New Hampshire that "the Hispanic voter...has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates," he started a firestorm of innuendo that has begun to shape how the media are covering the race for the Democratic presidential nomination in the heavily Hispanic Western states. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1707221,00.html
There was a growing consensus during the Democratic primary season that Obama was going to struggle with Latino voters -- due to the exit polls, his race, and McCain's immigration stance. In fact, in that now-famous conference call in which Hillary Clinton indicated that she would be open to serving as Obama's running mate, that response was spurred by concern by New York Rep. Nydia Velasquez (D) that Obama was going to have trouble with Latinos. But it looks like that CW -- at least right now -- was wrong. In addition to our recent NBC/WSJ poll, which showed Hispanics breaking for Obama 62%-28%, a new survey of 800 Latino voters from 21 states finds that 60% of them plan to vote for Obama versus 23% for McCain. That is down considerably from the 40%-plus Bush received in 2004. It's no longer fair to say that Obama has a problem with Latino voters; McCain does. This was a case of conventional wisdom that was never based on fact, just semi-informed speculation based on primary exit polling and bad stereotypes of Latinos.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/17/1148076.aspx
In recent weeks, there has been a great deal of talk surrounding the supposed "brown-black divide" in the Clinton-Obama race for the Democratic nomination--the theory that Latino voters are biased against black candidates. There are several problems with this strange bit of political conventional wisdom. The first is that many Latinos are, in fact, black--about 5 percent of Latinos identify as black, and about 25 percent have some black ancestry. While racism against darker-skinned Latinos by lighter-skinned Latinos does exist, Latino identity is ethnic, not racial. So when we're talking about a "brown-black divide" between African Americans and Latinos, we are in some instances talking about a black-black divide.
The second is that it isn't an accurate description of how Latinos actually vote. As Time's Gregory Rodriguez argues ("The Black-Brown Divide"): Nationwide, no fewer than eight black House members--including New York's Charles Rangel and Texas' Al Green--represent districts that are more than 25% Latino and must therefore depend heavily on Latino votes. And there are other examples. University of Washington political scientist Matt Barreto has begun compiling a list of black big-city mayors who have received large-scale Latino support over the past several decades. In 1983, Harold Washington pulled 80% of the Latino vote in Chicago. David Dinkins won 73% in New York City's mayoral race in 1989. And Denver's Wellington Webb garnered more than 70% in 1991, as did Ron Kirk in Dallas in 1995 and again in 1997 and '99. If he had gone back further, Barreto could have added longtime Los Angeles mayor Tom Bradley, who won a majority of Latino votes in all four of his re-election campaigns between 1977 and 1989.
Rodriguez argues that the real reason Obama is not doing as well as Clinton among Latino voters is because he hasn't established the level of institutional support in the Latino community that Clinton presently enjoys--due, one might imagine, to her longer history as a national figure. Clinton did exceptionally well, and Obama somewhat badly, among Latinos in Nevada on January 19th. Whether this trend continues on February 5th or not is a debatable point, but there is no evidence to indicate that Latinos as a group predictably vote in a racist way.
http://racerelations.about.com/b/2008/01/28/is-there-a-black-brown-divide.htm
The broadening of Obama's appeal for the nomination seen in Gallup's May 16-18 polling is fairly widespread, with the percentage favoring him increasing among most demographic categories of Democratic voters. However, as a result, certain groups that were already highly supportive of Obama for the nomination -- men, 18- to 29-year-olds, postgrads, and upper-income Democrats -- are now overwhelmingly in his camp. Obama is currently favored among these groups by a 2-to-1 margin, or better, over Clinton. At the same time, support for Clinton among some of her traditionally stalwart support groups -- women, Easterners, whites, adults with no college education, and Hispanics -- has fallen below 50%.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/107407/Obama-Surge-Fairly-BroadBased.aspx
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@thunderheart226 in other words scientist are not saying that their are no such thing as different groups lets use that word groups of people just that when whites used the term race they were establishing this order where whites maintain total power based on claiming or should I say lying that whites were genetically superior to every other race. So clearly their is a such thing as blacks, whites, asians, etc
Cancerian1976 4 months ago
@thunderheart226 That is, racial centrality appears to promote the degree of discrimination African American young adults perceive whereas racial ideology may buffer the detrimental emotional effects of that discrimination. Racist systems include, but cannot be reduced to, racial bigotry,”.[15] Sociologist and former American Sociological Association president Joe Feagin argues that the United States can be characterized as a "total racist society"[16]
Cancerian1976 4 months ago
@thunderheart226 Sociologists Noël A. Cazenave and Darlene Alvarez Maddern define racism as “...a highly organized system of 'race'-based group privilege that operates at every level of society and is held together by a sophisticated ideology of color/'race' supremacy. Sellers and Shelton (2003) found that a relationship between racial discrimination and emotional distress was moderated by racial ideology and public regard beliefs.
Cancerian1976 4 months ago
@thunderheart226
in other words race as a social construct was an ideal that whites created in order to maintain a social hierarchy
Sociological
Some sociologists have defined racism as a system of group privilege. In Portraits of White Racism, David Wellman has defined racism as "culturally sanctioned beliefs, which, regardless of intentions involved, defend the advantages whites have because of the subordinated position of racial minorities”.[14]
Cancerian1976 4 months ago
@thunderheart226
The Theory of Cultural Racism
But it is fair to
say that the hereditary superiority of the white race was
considered to be the single most important explanati
multipart fon for the white man's obvious superiority in
culture. This was the era of classical or biological racism.
Cancerian1976 4 months ago
@Cancerian1976 fat joe is black and white hes just more white hes mulatto. 2nd culture doesnt belong to a race are u serious u think this culture belongs ONLY to these ppl. wtf? so non blacks arent allowed to rap....is that what ur saying. u do realize a lot of puerto ricans are already black and do rap.like tego calderon.. i dont understand what ur saying?
thunderheart226 4 months ago
@thunderheart226 Fat Joe is a perfect example is he puerto rican he damn sure is not black yet and stil as a rap art which rap music is a part of our culture Black Culture not puerto rican culture I lived my whole life in New York City so I know what I am talking about. Yet and still he got mad because blacks don't want to give him any respect what for you are in another cultures who is not yours music and you want respect. So I am glad that he doesn't as a puerto rican trying to be black.
Cancerian1976 4 months ago
@thunderheart226 you are missing the point the point is that when you have those who are not black and want a sense of entitlement it creates a power struggle in other words. What blacks do is enable other races to lash out on blacks by trying to have ownership over black culture and ourselves. These things are destructive. In puerto ricans and dominicans admit to taking things from other cultures in order to make up their culture.
Cancerian1976 4 months ago
@thunderheart226 Telling the truth and sticking to it is not being stubborn. Also, WHITES commiting genocide, ethnocide, and slavery. No other race did all three of those things. Haddon is the only boxer out of Russia who was supposed to be good, but gets demolished everytime he fights none whites. Compensate for the fact that y'all suck in anything that isn't lying, stealing, or cheating. So now people whom were not consider white are white because it suites your needs. Sure your not WHITE?????
McCray2338 4 months ago
@McCray2338 wow ur really stubborn its not even funny. compensate what? i showed u ppl who were great fighter who happen to have pale skin if that even matters. the whole china thing was just for u to look at things from a broader view. plus russia is know for producing great wrestlers and hockey teams im not even white to begin with =] 2nd that happed a long time ago. plus arabs were raping africa before whites look up the islamic slave trade.many fighters tend to be poor china aint that rich
thunderheart226 4 months ago