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On the bright side- dragging around the old ball and chain might build some leg muscles. BIG GOVERNMENT has always led to slavery in the past. That's not something I will ever vote for.
I'd like to see some efficiency numbers on medicare. What I've heard so far implies that medicare is more efficient than private companies, if profit-margins are taken into account. And no-one even claims that medicare is an especially cost-effective single-payer system. You just need to start looking outside your borders.
@eshnajizzle you really that stupid, nothing "government" is ever more efficent than a private business. because unlike government, private businesses have to make a profit, and not take their good old time to make money. where as the government can just tax people and have no insentive to do anything.
Efficiency in the market isn't everything. The amount of people getting cared for should be the top priority. Treat a few effeciently, or all, who need it with some deadweight losses?
Medicare may be less efficient than the market; that's why I'd like to see the NUMBERS My other point was to say that other countries have more efficient governmental health-care, than your markets do. Explain, how that happened, if "nothing "government" is ever more efficent than a private business."
@eshnajizzle i think if you're going to tell anyone that the government is more efficent than the market YOU should be the one showing the numbers. It's simply not true.
a local college professor decided to socialize the way tests were done in his class to prove a point. he averaged all the grades of the tests. the ones who studied were angry, the ones who were lazy were happy. when the next tests came around everyone failed because they all wanted a free ride. socialism doesn't work.
@eyeball334 I asked for numbers, I didn't demand them. Stop taking personal offense. Issues fight, not people.
Theoretically markets operate more efficiently. But they don't always function properly. Economists have a good understanding of market-failures. Also the view of efficiency is limited, as I said. They only look at economical value. Nothing else
You're right socialism doesn't work. Markets are a good tool, but they just tools. We should be in control, that the power-drill doesn't slip
@mexicoike I still found no NUMBERS on the subject. I did read some estimates towards 2017 bankruptcy, but nowhere was it said what the cause is. You have the same problem we have in Finland; an aging population. This doesn't mean that medicare is a bad option for efficient healthcare, it simply means, there are more and more people on medicare and less paying for it. It's going bankrupt, because it isn't being given enough funding.
What a stupid comment. Take out USPS and guess what? Fedex and UPS will still compete against EACH OTHER, you moron.
Democrats continue to make the case that insurance companies don't have competition. Well all you have to do is create an insurance exchange where all insurers can offer products everywhere, as well as removing the healthcare anti-trust exemption, and you've got competition. You don't need a public option, especially since it will lead to a government takeover of HC.
The public option is NOT a benefit for the majority of people. It will lead to a single payer system due solely to the fact that it is impossible for the government to act both as a fair competitor and as a regulator.
Once this happens, 160 million Americans will lose the employer-based coverage that they currently enjoy in exchange for something worse offered by the government. Do you still think this option will benefit the majority?
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Medicare may be less efficient than the market; that's why I'd like to see the NUMBERS
My other point was to say that other countries have more efficient governmental health-care, than your markets do. Explain, how that happened, if "nothing "government" is ever more efficent than a private business."
a local college professor decided to socialize the way tests were done in his class to prove a point. he averaged all the grades of the tests. the ones who studied were angry, the ones who were lazy were happy. when the next tests came around everyone failed because they all wanted a free ride. socialism doesn't work.
Theoretically markets operate more efficiently. But they don't always function properly. Economists have a good understanding of market-failures. Also the view of efficiency is limited, as I said. They only look at economical value. Nothing else
You're right socialism doesn't work. Markets are a good tool, but they just tools. We should be in control, that the power-drill doesn't slip
I still found no NUMBERS on the subject.
I did read some estimates towards 2017 bankruptcy, but nowhere was it said what the cause is.
You have the same problem we have in Finland; an aging population. This doesn't mean that medicare is a bad option for efficient healthcare, it simply means, there are more and more people on medicare and less paying for it. It's going bankrupt, because it isn't being given enough funding.
Democrats continue to make the case that insurance companies don't have competition. Well all you have to do is create an insurance exchange where all insurers can offer products everywhere, as well as removing the healthcare anti-trust exemption, and you've got competition. You don't need a public option, especially since it will lead to a government takeover of HC.
Once this happens, 160 million Americans will lose the employer-based coverage that they currently enjoy in exchange for something worse offered by the government. Do you still think this option will benefit the majority?