John Howard Lies

John Howard caught out on his promise that no Australian worker will be worse off.

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News & Politics

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• Howard
• workchoices
• industrial
• relation
• australia

[Oberonian]

Yeah but give the man a fair go! It was not a core promise!

[luneco100]

today we are worse off than ever from lazarus 11 yrs of fanatic IR laws to the mad monk the creator of workchoices and red sonya that talks out of arse sorry wax 07 that got thrown overboard like the children the cost of living is soaring a nation like australia with all the resources from oil gas diamonds iron ore the list goes on billions of dollars in wealth and the poor people are paying millions of dollars in taxes bills groceries for what to keep the fat cats happy at our expense wonderful

[obaia]

@piginasack Have you got the ABS figures on inflation yet

Just wondering.

[obaia]

@piginasack Militant Unions are as bad as preditory capitalists.

Like you say we need a balance. Award wages were not dropped down. with workchoices. You seem to forget if everybody's wage goes up . It is passed on to the end consumer . The lowest earners take the brunt of this. So we should have been happy with wages keeping 2.5% ahead of inflation on average for 11 years.

Did you look at real inflation from 1970.

[piginasack]

@obaia - Now even a conservative like yourself must surely think that you should always be gunning for the best wages and conditions for all, and the best balance of that? History teaches us that given the choice, some would employ slave labour if they could. Some people need protection from predatory, opportunistic capitalists. I also dealt with mainly the post-war era, to bring the 80's into context.

[obaia]

@piginasack Interest rates. Very good But please start before the Whitlam years and work from there. 1970 onwards to get the big picture. 40 years is in the relm of things

erosion of working conditions ???? As said things have changed dramatically over the past 50 years. Working conditions don't suit today. Is it better to have some employed on big pay and all the conditions or all employed on lesser pay and conditions. ?

[obaia]

@piginasack Very good But please start before the Whitlam years and work from there. 1970 onwards to get the big picture. 40 years is in the relm of things

[obaia]

@piginasack The above Vidio if you look real hard. Is a beat up 10 years apart. The second clip is Howard Jan 1996 before the march 1996 election. Saying with a coalition policy wages will not be cut (like they have been previously under Labor) The first clip with a 10 year older Howard in 1996 says he cannot garantee every individual. Anybody can make what they like out of video clips. I can assure you a lot of people were a lot better off in 2006 than they were in 1996. Especially workers.

[obaia]

@piginasack .Fraser's negotiations with the ACTU saw him lose control of a wages explosion in 1982 much to Howard's and Treasury's horror. With his authority as treasurer being flouted, Howard considered resigning in July 1982, but he decided to "tough it out". The 1982 wages explosion—wages rose 16 per cent across the country—resulted in stagflation; unemployment touched double-digits and inflation peaked at 12.5% (official interest rates peaked at 21%).

[obaia]

@piginasack It does not get away from the fact that people working a weekend get paid 30% more than those not working a weekend. As said when Gov had to restrain wages to fight inflation. Where do they restrain them. From those getting 30% extra for same hrs worked or Cut wages across the board. As said times have changed. All food outlets are open all weekend.Super markets. All those that drive up cpi. The cost of living , driving inflation.