Schieffer On Obama Cabinet

Bob Schieffer discusses the exit of Bill Richardson as President-elect Obama's Commerce Secretary Nominee, and the new CIA director nominee Leon Panetta.

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[ianyoutub]

Absolutely right.

[ianyoutub]

Sorry, but you are not going to redefine terminology so there is no 'agreeing to disagree'. Fascism including Nazism is far right. That has ALWAYS BEEN the case. Nazism is National Socialism, but the emphasis in nazism is on the NATIONAL, not the socialism. As duhCider points out, fascism puts the NATION first, and everything is subservient to that. Socialism puts the social, the PEOPLE first. It's you that needs to put in some more history research. The nazi party = FAR RIGHT.

[quantumcodex]

@lidixmang

So Hitler's a socialist now? Absurd. Go and tell that to the sons and daughters of Hitler's prisoners, including Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, and socialists, who were liberated from Auschwitz in 1945 by Communist soldiers of the Soviet Red Army.

[quantumcodex]

@lidixmang

Hitler's strategy, at least initially, was to control the economy by controlling the wealthy capitalists, who obviously controlled the means of production. They were like butter in his hands, and most rejoiced when he was appointed chancellor on January 30, 1933. One of a very few notable exceptions to this pattern of political subservience was Junkers, who was opposed to fascism, and was forced to surrender his factory, and to see his capital used to manufacture bombers.

[quantumcodex]

@lidixmang

The National Socialist Workers Party, led by Adolf Hitler, employed the concept of socialism to convey ideological support for ordinary people outside the wealthy industrial capitalist class who were so desperately poor and angry, in the wake of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, that they were willing to vote for a rabidly anti-Communist, racist, homophobic, ultra-nationalistic, imperialist dictator who would by 1945 cause Germany's poverty to deepen into the realm of starvation.

[quantumcodex]

@lidixmang

Hitler's Germany was a fascist government. Fascism is characterized by private and corporate plutocracy, ultra-nationalist imperialism, and violent abrogations of liberty. Hitler's ascendancy was applauded by a preponderance of Germany's wealthy industrial barons, who had enthusiastically adhered to principles of market capitalism for decades. They knew Hitler's desire was not to steal their wealth, but rather to make them richer with lucrative military contracts and slave labour.

[quantumcodex]

@lidixmang

Appropriating public treasury funds to pay private banks is de facto corporate plutocracy, not socialism.

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@lidixmang

You apparently believe Hitler's Nazi Party was a prime example of classic socialism because Hitler's policy decisions eventually nationalized the German economy. Such a view of socialism is completely warped. The paramount vision of socialism has always been democratic governance, responsive and accountable to the people. Consequently, Hitler's Germany was quite diametrically opposed to even the slightest tendency to embrace true socialism.

[quantumcodex]

@lidixmang

You obviously do not adequately understand the concept of capital. Capital is the means of production. Money is not capital. Working-class people do not earn capital, they are given wages in exchange for labour, and earn money.

[quantumcodex]

@lidixmang

Actually, Hitler's Nazi party was devoted to extreme nationalism from inception. Hitler's election as chancellor permanently destroyed the Weimar Republic, and replaced a democratically elected government with a nationalist dictatorship.

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@lidixmang

Prior to Hitler's election as chancellor in 1933, he did not have any authority to determine Germany's economic policy, so the very premise of your question is absolutely false. Heinrich Bruening was chancellor immediately prior, during a period of increasing parliamentary chaos, and at least ostensibly sought to preserve the democratic Weimar Republic, which obviously Hitler's ultra-nationalist policy later succeeded in destroying.