THE MOST CONTROLLED AND DYNAMIC VOICES EVER!
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con tutto il mio rispetto ,ma se non sbaglio e la mia memoria e buona boris shtokolov era andrea bocelli fra i bassi e ha cantato 2 ruoli nella sua vita ! Franco Corelli era una legenda , era vero tenore lirico,come puo mettere accando di Corelli un basso con poca voce ,e chi e stato mai un cantante lirico? i miei rispetti
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You can find some nice recording with lot of diminuendo from Miguel Fleta here in youtube. If you ceck "e lucevan le stelle" there is a version where he does an incredible diminuendo. Ceck also how he sings the spanish songs.. He's a monster ot techinique. I heard about him in a master class with Alfredo Kraus , when someone asked him: "who had a perfect technique?" he replyed:"Miguel Fleta in the past".. enjoy..
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Corelli fu più che altro un autodidatta e, deluso dai risultati ottenuti sotto alcuni maestri, creò la sua propria tecnica studiando i grandi cantanti precedenti, ma il suo preferito era Pertile, basandosi sugli studi di foniatria del tenore spagnolo Manuel Garcia.
Fu però solo grazie agli incontri con Lauri Volpi che riuscì a prendere pieno possesso del suo strumento vocale, riuscendo a perdere quella caprinità nelle note alte che gli era valso il nomignolo di peCorelli.
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Shtokolov was first and foremost a Russian singer. It matters little whether he was technically sound or not. What matters is the soul. And in the genre of Russian romance, practically terra incognita for western audiences, he was the best ever, Trust me, I've heard them all, including Petrov, Nesterenko, Gmyria, Reizen, Pirogov, Eisen, Shaliapin, Michailov etc.Christov and Ghiaurov had beautiful voices but their Russian accent was bad, which matters greatly..
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The most amazing thing is that he, like Caruso, could not hit the high tones when young.There is/was no other singer with dramatic characteristics that could do what he was able to do. Most renowned lyric tenors would not dare to tackle what
Corelli became able to do. His tenacity and discipline helped polish his natural talents.
He had the complete package.
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@weylwargot ² Una registrazione amico é una dolce ILLUSIONE.
Durante una registrazione il cantante non puo cantare con la sua vera voce lirica,e obligato di cantare meno forte possibile perche?
Il microfono non "ama" le grandi voci,chiedi á un tecnico del suono ti spiegherá meglio di me...
Ti parlo perche vedo che sei giovane e per questa ragione ti rispetto
Io non sono italiano,ma per la lirica il mio cuore é ITALIANO.
Da 1958 vado nel teatro,questo anno ho visto dal vivo 130 recite.
Ciao.
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@weylwargot Amico,
1io non uso mai la parola"merda"...
2non é importante per te quanti ruoli un cantante lirico ha cantato nella sua vita?
3Stokolov dal vivo aveva voce piu piccola di Ghiuselev,lei sa di che cosa parlo?non credo.
4Spesso sul YT mettono le voci di Giacomini e Kaufmann,Boccelli e Caruso insieme,la nuova moda hahaha
5Corelli dal vivo aveva una voce stupenda.
Stokolov dal vivo non si sentiva da 10 metri e quando parliamo della lirica non e male di sapere di chi parliamo e come...
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@bodiloto il numero de ruoli? questo non e importante...tu dici questo perche sei italiano(a) forse corelli e stato la piu grande legenda del canto, ma shtokolov non e quella merda que tu dici. Stokolov e un grande, benche nessuno lo conosce. E se tu sai lire "THE MOST CONTROLLED AND DYNAMIC VOICES EVER!" non dice que i dui sono uguale. i miei rispetti.
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Two great singers, each of whom at his best had extraordinary control over his upper register -- God bless them both:) --
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Wonderful singing indeed. BTW please allow me to say that Boris Shtokolov is an excellent bass, but not a basso profondo.
Thanks for this nice video.
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Parabat7
Slim or small has little to do with chest resonance. Most of the great tenors, Del Monaco, Bjorling, Tucker and etc. They are stocky and small but their high registers all have well balanced head and a chest resonance. Without a chest resonance they wouldn't have great high notes. But yes, the baritones and basses are usually taller.
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@steakopera Damn right we do! Unless we can keep enough nerve to do some chest resonance transfer but slim, smaller guys (I am 1m83 & 92 kilos) don't get that opportunity.
Corelli studied an old techinque for diminuendo from the spanish tenor of the 20' miguel fleta.
ceck some records, it's amazing.
principecalaf 3 years ago
How fasinating! Where did you find that informaion? When questioned on the program "opera fanatic" I remember Corelli saying he was born with a natural ability for controlling dynamics. Of course that is nonsence as we clearly can hear him developing it throughout his career. I suspect he had some secret he wanted to keep to himself about his methods.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
I find diminuedo in "ah leve toi" much easier than the diminuendo in "celeste aida." I think it is because of the vowels. One is e and the other is o. It's harder to diminuendo with open vowel.
steakopera 3 years ago
hmm, interesting points you made. But I dont think vowels are universally easy or hard, it depends on the singer. For example I find e and a the easyist. I made these selections however not based on vowel difficulty, but on the magnitude of the dynamics displayed.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
forget what the academics say forget hollywood and listen to the golden voice that inspiered many the great Mario lanza
captianrat 3 years ago
The "academics" have little to do with my view on voices, my conclusions here are my own. And you are doing Lanza a dis-service with such statements. It makes his fans appear ignorant to say "he is the best, dont bother listening to any other singer". Do you not think Lanza was a fan of Corelli and vice versa? And futher I do not appreciate comments that have nothing to do with the video I posted.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago 2