The Razor's Edge - last scene.avi

Here by popular demand. Bill Murray's lines in this final scene are far more nihilistic than anything found in the original "Razor's Edge" by Somerset Maugham.

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[MuizeekPhanahtic]

"There is no payoff"

That line and its meaning has stayed with me.

It says alot about life and how we conduct ourselves. It says alot sometimes about motivation and relationships. It says alot maybe on how we view life in connection to the spiritual.

I am glad this was available, and its brief swan song is timeless.

Thank you, and best wishes to all the viewers. :)

[SisterMaryK]

THE best movie I ever saw. Bill Murray was excellent and this scene summed up his knowledged obtained through his quest. He was so kind to this woman after all she did to destroy Sophie and his own happiness. It was a beautiful thing. I also loved the scene with his real life brother on the battlefield "you will not be missed"

[MuizeekPhanahtic]

@trapadoored Good question. There is probably truth to all of your statements. Each view will have their own interpretation I suppose. For me, the "it doesn't matter" line is very telling. Larry is saying that because of his spiritual journey, what he learned & saw & has been through, the basic emotions of love & desire are not the whole picture. There is more. She's trapped in that one vision while he has evolved (in a sense) more. Just my guess. Hope it helps. Thanks 4 UR comment.

[trapadoored]

@MuizeekPhanahtic

Still wondering, all this time later, is he happy, sad or just numb at the end of this scene this scene? Maybe its none of the above. Maybe he is simply stating a fact about the univeverse and it isn't about how it makes him feel to say it. Maybe "it doesn't matter"

[protonman7]

I liked it. Bill got judged unfairly, IMO. It's hard to make a movie of a really good book---the standard is set way high.Maybe someone else COULD have done a better job, but at least Bill got it made, and liked it.

[jojopuppyfish]

Always thought Murray was miscast in this film. Ironically he produced the film and overall is a good film. He's a very good actor, BTW.

[MuizeekPhanahtic]

@trapadoored Last one. Happiness has to come within 1st to go out. He lost who he loved but not ability to love & can go forward. Yes, your path is shaped by far more than who you spend time with; connects high to your actions in life. Larry found meaning by challenging what he believed in, because that led him to war and experience loss/pain. 'Doesn't Matter' means stay present & don't look back, Isabel there reminded him of old self. Autonomy most def. Hope this helps. Thx again. Best wishes.

[MuizeekPhanahtic]

@trapadoored To be fair, you posed alot of questions. I want to add a bit more. I think of the film as a spiritual journey, and for many love is that journey - but for Larry, who had seen & lost alot, felt he had to turn and walk another way to figure it out. Sophie was what felt right for him, because she was in his world, grounded, whereas Isabel could not relate to anything outside of her class responsibility, and he could not accept that. There's the line between the two girls, & his heart.

[MuizeekPhanahtic]

@trapadoored Great question. Thanks. Excellent to think about. I thought about it alot actually, as I watched. To keep it simple, when your intentions and motivations are drawing from the right place, the essence of Love can flourish and flow. With Larry, he was lost, hurting and scarred (from war) so there was a great need inside him. I think what made him strong was that he followed his beliefs. He learned not all comes together perfectly. He had to reject a part of previous thinking to grow.

[trapadoored]

@MuizeekPhanahtic

what about love? What does this story say about love? Does it say that we shouldn't depend on other people for our happyness? That he lost the girl but found himself? That there are more important things than who you are with? Larry learns the error of defining yourself by what someone else thinks of you, or whether or not they are with you?

Is that what "it doesn't matter" means? because this woman is so desperate for others approval ? Could the lesson be about autonomy?

[MuizeekPhanahtic]

@nickmooselives Spiritual growth a the theme but many things going on. I feel the film mirrored the book closely. It was about the rejection of old ways & discovering new solutions. It was about the rejection of superficial purpose & instead building a path to generosity & heart. To do all that one faces disapproval. Larry was brave to question & strive to achieve the love he sought. He ended up learning more than his new beliefs taught. It goes one. Hope that helps. Thx 4 writing. Best wishes.

[MuizeekPhanahtic]

@nickmooselives Good question. Made me think. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Well, my opinion is just one - as many can draw their own and sometimes we as people agree or disagree, or come close to an consensus. But, my belief is that this tale was a highly personal one for Maugham as well as Larry. The subject matter - finding your own values and beliefs changed as a result from war and experiences there - is a timeless one we will all debate. I think it was about spiritual growth.