Shoot Out - Lexus IS-F vs. Audi RS4
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that rs4 gives me a boner. I need to get one next year.
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I didn't intend for that to sound like I was taking it personally, I'm just trying to show how my experiences are different than what is assumed. In my experience, Hondas have been less "reliable" than a BMW. I know JD Power will say otherwise, but that is what I am arguing against. I don't think cars can be judged on reliability (except for the first 30,000 miles) because it really comes down to the owners care.
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Also, if you check you'll find that the M3 was voted BMW's most reliable 3-series car. And I have a few friends with M3s and they run fine. As long as you take care of them and stay in the habit of doing regular maintenance, they should run for a long time. Now if you want to talk about the expense of maintaining different cars, that is a whole different story. But cost of maintenance and reliability aren't the same.
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The point is you can't assume that because a car is from one country that it automatically fits the stereotypes. My brothers car is supposed to be one of the most reliable cars on the planet but its broken down on him more times than my BMW has, and my car has an extra 35,000 miles on it. Realistically, the reliability of a car is determined by how the owner takes care of it. Any car can run for decades with the right care. To rule a car "unreliable" without any experience is nonsense.
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The Integra was an all-around bad car. The build quality was poor and the car broke down on me three times in a year, all of which were times when I needed it to run. So when I got a new car I bought an E36 325i and it is far better. Not only is the build quality far better (from the interior to the exterior) but it hasn't broken down once. And as my 325i approaches 225,000 miles, my brothers Civic approaching 195,000 has been in the shop 3 times in the past 6 months...
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@alexgd0193 Maybe a better term than unreliable is "less reliable"
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@alexgd0193 Like I said, your experience might be unique. But in general Japanese cars are more reliable. Google JD Power or Consumer reports. The most reliable cars are Japanese.
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@alexgd0193 I never said "ALL" German cars are unreliable. All I am saying is that Japanese cars like Toyotas are known for their reliability, German cars are not. of course reliabllty is based somewhat on how much you maintain your car. German cars are way more expensive to maintain because the parts need to be imported.
I've owned several cars, from VW to MB to BMW to Audi. My father owned a auto repair shop for 30+ years so I know what I am talking about. Why are you taking it personally?
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That is where you're stereotyping. Its the standard "all German cars are unreliable." How many have you owned? I can tell you this, my family is big into Hondas, Toyotas, etc. and I have had plenty of experience with those types of cars. So far, I have driven two accords, two civics, an integra, a tC, a Focus, a F-150, an Explorer, and a 325i. Mostly though, the Integra and the 325i. My experience with the Integra (which is supposed to be the reliable car) was terrible...
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@alexgd0193 Yes but Lexus and Toyota are known for their reliability. They didn't get that reputation by accident, did they?
I love german cars and especially the M3, but no way would I buy one sans warranty, they are unreliable cars, everyone who has owned one knows that. That doesn't mean they are not great cars. If I ever own one, I am gonna still keep my Accord.
@Mowner3 quoted from TopGear ''BMW drivers have no friends!''
peterogoliver 9 months ago 9
The Audi brakes better. I'll just assume that the Lexus driver died
AHMADF93 11 months ago 2