Outside of Space and Time

A standard theist argument is to ask "what caused the Big Bang" they typically try to suggest the idea that their god exists outside of time and space and so that is who created the Big Bang and therefore the universe.

Here I break down this idea of being "outside of space and time" to show just how stupid that is...even for some non-theists that think they understand relativity as well.

Sorry, but let's be fair...atheists can be wrong too.

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• king
• heathen
• space
• time
• god
• creation
• evolution
• big
• bang
• bible
• christianity
• atheism
• atheist

[realirishdude]

I am a committed Christian. I believe in the uncreated God, who created all things. Your video is awesome! Really instructional. I have used the arguments you have attempted to debunk. I will seriously reconsider my position on this idea. Yes, it is true (and I was thinking this before you said it), that you haven't disproven God. I do like to think I am intelligent and open to learning. So, as a Christian committed to the NT principle of Truth, I applaud your work here on this video. Dave.

[KingHeathen]

@realirishdude Thanks Dave. I appreciate the honest approach to the video. I hope to see more of your comments in the future (sorry for taking so long to respond to you)

[nimmnoss]

one last hypothisis could god exist outside of our time meaning could time thare travel faster or slower than it doess here could gods perseption of time be diferent than ours

[KingHeathen]

@nimmnoss "faster" and "slower" are both indications of "time"...a varied "perception" doesn't make you "outside of time." It just means that time is "relative" which Einstein already proved. Time is a MEASUREMENT that HUMANS INVENTED to explain the speed of which things change. It's no different that the "inch."

[nimmnoss]

opinion what is space not what is in it right now but what is it really? outside the universe there is no energy no light certainly no gravity and no time because nothing is out there for time to exist in except in our small universe now can god exist outside of space and time certainly because space is nothing and if the universe exists in nothing it needed a creator to make it out of nothing think what you want we all have opinions

[KingHeathen]

@nimmnoss So I take it that you think that just because a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it that it doesn't make a sound...right?

[InsanityComplex1]

@realirishdude Dear devoted christian: 1. Have you ever had surgery or used prescription medication?

[InsanityComplex1]

Christians claim their god exists outside physics which is what time and space essentially is unless I'm mistaken, which would mean outside human sensibility (touch, taste, hear, smell and feel). So the question is, where did the claim originate from? The answer: Nowhere. The same goes with ghosts. No physical attributes=non-existent.

God-illogicity in its purest and most desparate form.

[ilovearmadillos]

@Graphiclee63 irony

[jamesbakerschool]

cool video - the comment before mine is quite funny.

[Graphiclee63]

You sounds like an idiot!

[Prologicful]

@KingHeathen

You wrote that a creative force (God) existing outside the universe couldn't cause the universe to happen as causality requires time. A creator outside time could never "do anything before anything else"

Well that time requirement disqualifies ANYTHING (an "eternal energy" etc) from creating the universe as time itself began with the Big Bang

Time is relative to the observer but it's not infinite, as proven by the law of entropy and the fact that it is 2.7 degrees Kelvin

[itzahazylife]

it's a very neat concept. it's by no means claiming a god exists. but,an omniverse or super symmetry state share many god-like attributes. god could merely be an eternal reality,not an eternal being. the way i see it,there must be eternality. if nothing is in fact utterly nothing (no space, time, energy, matter, vacuums) something could never be generated. but,since we know something exists, somethingness itself (nature, reality, etc.) must be eternal in some inconceivable way. SHIT,i dunno lol.

[itzahazylife]

basically our universe is a reality of distinction. up/down, left/right, neg/pos, etc. the big bang is the beginning of this distinction from an eternal reality state where past, present, and future all exist simultaneously, and every possible manifestation of reality exists in a sort of quantum wave function..so, nothing/zero wouldn't be empty, it'd be full. a unification..an elimination of the distinction. universes are merely breaks in this super symmetry, or fractions of an eternal whole.