@deathcapt Yet the experiment clearly proved that the younger cells simply grew on the top of the older ones which is clearly a colonial behavior. Nutrient flows inside the lumps might have accounted for the behavior observed. Furthermore, younger cells harvested from the lump should have shown an increased affinity for other cells in normal conditions or a similar behavior in low pressure. Bacteria also grow in colonies.
@deathcapt Pardon me, there is a difference between that clump of yeasts and a human body. Stem cells and teleocits are poly-form, while yeasts are still uniform. A human embryo is programmed to form into specialized cells. You just can't compare stem cells with a colony of yeasts. Your clump of yeasts certainly couldn't reproduce via fragmentation. Had that been the case, the younger cells would have broken away.
First off, a spore in the literal sense is one of many forms of reproduction. There are plenty of species which reproduce through a variety of methods, looks at starfish they reproduce asexually by fragmentation. There's no difference between a colony of yeast clumping together for survival, or a group of organelle grouping together to form a human cell. There are plenty of organisms which are composed of like cells. A human embryo is a good example.
@deathcapt The problem is that the lump of cells didn't seed itself. The younger cells just grew around their parent ones, just like any colony of microbial life would. To be called an organism that lump of cells should have "reproduced" itself, when reaching a critical mass through spores. Try imagine the Antarctic Imperial penguins during the winter. They form a shell to protect against the cold. The yeasts formed a lump to protect against multiple G's.
@deathcapt You mean the experiment involving yeasts? Come on...
That experiment revealed the adaptability of yeasts in a centrifuge. I doubt our early Earth experienced more than 1 G.Those yeasts acted like a colony, not like an organism. Plus the number of samples implies this is a per-determined behavior and that all yeasts have that capability.
Arguing with this guy is like playing chess against a pidgeon, you can be the best player in the world, but the pidgeon will just knock over pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like he's the winner.
Epigenetics. I rest my case.
InnateWhisper 2 weeks ago
@deathcapt Yet the experiment clearly proved that the younger cells simply grew on the top of the older ones which is clearly a colonial behavior. Nutrient flows inside the lumps might have accounted for the behavior observed. Furthermore, younger cells harvested from the lump should have shown an increased affinity for other cells in normal conditions or a similar behavior in low pressure. Bacteria also grow in colonies.
Researchrules 2 weeks ago
@deathcapt Pardon me, there is a difference between that clump of yeasts and a human body. Stem cells and teleocits are poly-form, while yeasts are still uniform. A human embryo is programmed to form into specialized cells. You just can't compare stem cells with a colony of yeasts. Your clump of yeasts certainly couldn't reproduce via fragmentation. Had that been the case, the younger cells would have broken away.
Researchrules 2 weeks ago
@Researchrules
First off, a spore in the literal sense is one of many forms of reproduction. There are plenty of species which reproduce through a variety of methods, looks at starfish they reproduce asexually by fragmentation. There's no difference between a colony of yeast clumping together for survival, or a group of organelle grouping together to form a human cell. There are plenty of organisms which are composed of like cells. A human embryo is a good example.
deathcapt 2 weeks ago
@deathcapt The problem is that the lump of cells didn't seed itself. The younger cells just grew around their parent ones, just like any colony of microbial life would. To be called an organism that lump of cells should have "reproduced" itself, when reaching a critical mass through spores. Try imagine the Antarctic Imperial penguins during the winter. They form a shell to protect against the cold. The yeasts formed a lump to protect against multiple G's.
Researchrules 2 weeks ago
@Researchrules It also happened in less than 2 months.
deathcapt 3 weeks ago
@deathcapt You mean the experiment involving yeasts? Come on...
That experiment revealed the adaptability of yeasts in a centrifuge. I doubt our early Earth experienced more than 1 G.Those yeasts acted like a colony, not like an organism. Plus the number of samples implies this is a per-determined behavior and that all yeasts have that capability.
Researchrules 3 weeks ago
Arguing with this guy is like playing chess against a pidgeon, you can be the best player in the world, but the pidgeon will just knock over pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like he's the winner.
deathcapt 3 weeks ago
@Researchrules
for RNA google
'RNA in a lab'
first article
For single to multi cell evolution google
'Evolution from Single to Multi-Cell Clusters Replicated'
first article
deathcapt 3 weeks ago
@deathcapt Those ware stem cells, not individual cells.
Researchrules 3 weeks ago