@rstevewarmorycom The corruption in government is caused by the government being too big and not strictly adhering to the constitution. Bailouts are NOT capitalism, free market capitalism means that there is a seperation of the state and the economy and bailouts ARE not seperation of state and the economy. Libertarianism also supports a seperation of the state and the economy. It is the Neo Cons who are to blame
@rstevewarmorycom The way capitalists steal is caused by the very thing Libertarians oppose Government Intervention. Government Intervention is exactly what the TARP Bailouts and governments serving special interest groups is.
@rstevewarmorycom Libertarianism has nothing to do with stealing, far from it libertarianism supports property rights and also opposes government sanctioned stealing otherwise known as taxation
@Crackshot1983 Think about this a while, and you will
see why If capitalism is allowed to exist, then I want a
government that might be big enough to have a chance
to oppose it to an infinite extent!!
rstevewarmorycom 8 hours ago
@Crackshot1983 The courts have not found landlords in violation for
doing precisely that, can you tell me that wealth is not in
and of itself corrupting of freedom? Or can you convince
me that such a thing is not allowed to occur under capitalism?
I don't think so. And any corruption by NeoCons in the manner
you described would be a million times smaller than the corruption
of freedom I cited just from the normal utilization of wealth in a
capitalism.
rstevewarmorycom 8 hours ago
@Crackshot1983 Are you saying that we would then
have a fair society, even if he didn't use his wealth to directly
corrupt government? Are you saying that having infinite
freedom of speech his wealth would afford him, while he
would be free to evict anyone from their rental homes if
they spoke out against him would not be corruption on its
own?
rstevewarmorycom 8 hours ago
@Crackshot1983 What you say in that regard may well be
true, but I see it as as mere side-effect. That being true is
in no way central to my thesis critique of capitalism. Think
of it this way: I haven't ever heard of any mechanism in
capitalism that would prevent one man from sooner or later
coming to own absolutely everything, the sum total of all
wealth in the society.
rstevewarmorycom 8 hours ago
@rstevewarmorycom The corruption in government is caused by the government being too big and not strictly adhering to the constitution. Bailouts are NOT capitalism, free market capitalism means that there is a seperation of the state and the economy and bailouts ARE not seperation of state and the economy. Libertarianism also supports a seperation of the state and the economy. It is the Neo Cons who are to blame
Crackshot1983 17 hours ago
@Crackshot1983 But that's caused by the rich hijacking the electoral
and legislative process. If they weren't permitted
to do that, government would be democratic, and
that means it would be all about taxing back what the
rich stole away from them and returning it to their
victims.
rstevewarmorycom 23 hours ago
@Crackshot1983 So you're saying that capitalists
steal because the government is nasty? That's silly,
the corruption in government is all caused by the
capitalist special interests looking for favors, from
laws that let only the rich steal to bailouts, it's all
the same continuum. Welfare for the poor and
disadvantaged is extremely tiny compared to the
corporate welfare and favors to the rich, that's
how the congress gets re-elected, you know!
rstevewarmorycom 23 hours ago
@rstevewarmorycom The way capitalists steal is caused by the very thing Libertarians oppose Government Intervention. Government Intervention is exactly what the TARP Bailouts and governments serving special interest groups is.
Crackshot1983 23 hours ago
@Crackshot1983 Nonsense, the way capitalists steal
is with the very rights that Libertarianism wants them
to have, rights that permit the rich to steal, but not the
poor. Taxation isn't stealing, it's the recovery of lost
or stolen property for the body politic from those who
steal by wealth.
rstevewarmorycom 1 day ago
@rstevewarmorycom Libertarianism has nothing to do with stealing, far from it libertarianism supports property rights and also opposes government sanctioned stealing otherwise known as taxation
Crackshot1983 1 day ago