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excerpt from a very informative lecture from (theist - not that THAT should matter) biologist Ken Miller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
posted in response to creationist drivel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEkJpvjP1c
What is your explanation, creationists?
Why can't you propose an experiment/observation that would falsify the theory?
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@lugaidster Yes, I do believe in intelligent design and do think that explains the sudden appearance of life forms. Not just because they showed up suddenly but because of their irreducible complexity starting at the cellular level, but really throughout the bodies of all life forms.
LoricaLady 5 days ago
@lugaidster Oh, and please, please be sure to answer these Qs. Let's say you could date a fossil with its degraded DNA - how would that date tell you zip about it's babies, its progeny, its descendants? You are being told as FACT, not speculation, what kinds of offspring the "transitions" produced. (Psuedo science should bother you.) There isn't a shred of evidence their offspring were significantly different from themselves. Or, if there is any, tell what it is & please don't evade doing so.
LoricaLady 5 days ago
@lugaidster I'm asking you again to please stop evading serious scientific Qs I have asked you and provide the answers, not just "Read this site...see that vid..." Although, if you can show me just 1 single site that has a picture of a part fin/foot, scale/feather, reptile/fish, reptile/mammal, by all means do be sure to include that Google reference. Ditto if there is any record of any such thing in the innumerable life forms around us. That would be da-ta, not speculation presented as fact.
LoricaLady 5 days ago
@lugaidster ...and wild speculations w/o evidence being presesnted as if they are scientific facts. "Cats & dogs didn't always exist..." If you believe in the fictional Geologic Column (which is never, to my knowledge, explained as being non existent on the planet earth when in text books) then you have to believe that they didn't always exist. Show fossils that are part cat or dog & part something else. All the evidence shows is 100% cats or 100% dogs (wolves are the same species as dogs.)
LoricaLady 5 days ago
@lugaidster ...There you see the two basic kingdoms of life & no new ones since, every major phyla - no new ones since. They just popped up out of "nowhere." "Sudden"ly. There are no part this phyla & part that phyla. They have found invertebrates and well as some vertebrates in that "age." Nothing is part this & part that. Everything is 100% solidly in 1 kingdom, class, phyla, etc. There is 0 evidence of evolution there, in any fossils or in life all around us. Just logical fallacies...
LoricaLady 5 days ago
@lugaidster ...Focus on the word "sudden." Sudden is exactly right and certainly not just for species - actually new species are appearing all the time, but species of bees stay bees, peas stay peas, people stay people etc., so you are not really understanding the issue here. But back to "sudden." Study the so called Cambrian period. Use evolutionary literature. Notice they talk about the "explosion" i.e. sudden appearance of life forms at the so called earliest levels of life....
LoricaLady 5 days ago
@lugaidster ...& pure speculation presented as if it is evidence. YOU watch and read what you think is tellilng you the truth - & look for those things. They are always, always in any kind of evo defense materials. Please avoid the topic of Jesus. Evo stands or falls based on science & logic alone & to refer to the Bible or Diety, which is not in the discussion, is to use the strawman logical fallacy.
Notice what you are saying, "Sudden appearance of species in the fossil record..." Cont.
LoricaLady 5 days ago
@lugaidster ...where is just 1 ex. of fins/feet, scales/feathers, reptiles/birds (don't bother with archaeopteryx as even a lot of evolutionists admit its just a birds & some evolutionary ornithologists reject the idea that birds came from reptiles period), reptiles/mammals and so on. You need to answer those Qs not just keep evading them guy. Telling me to watch a vid or read a site is a dodge. I'll tell you what you will find 100% of times that you see such things: logical fallacies &...
LoricaLady 5 days ago