Big Chocolate live in Moscow (Part 2)

(06/16/09) Cameron Argon (Big Chocolate) doing vocals for Abominable Putridity @ Plan B - Moscow, Russia

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[xGRACEYx123]

big chocolate does all EXHALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OrangeCounty92]

Guys this are not screaming vocal these are low growls or low gutturals........I'm pretty sure there low low low gutturalls.......lol

[poonfisty]

@rippingthroughmetal maybe you should learn how to spell too. Gutturals*

[rippingthroughmetal]

@ericandtegan Exactly. And unfortunately, I'm not in a band. I do gutterals for plain old fun, lol. I never intended to really learn how. Listening to DTG, The Faceless and other groups and sheer experimentation is how I learned how to do it. But I really have no intention to make a career out of it, rather use it to mimic songs ranging from metal to pop music, and playing Rock Band, or something, lol.

[ericandtegan]

@rippingthroughmetal I do know what you mean. And i personally think there is too much emphasis on 'diaphragm technique' like it is a secret weapon. The way i see it, 99% of metal vocals are using their diaphragm to push air, and that whether it is using much air to push or little, still originates from the same place. I get the same sensation while doing gutturals as you describe, and while its not using diaphragm like a shout, it moderates flow. You have any clips of you band? Keen to hear it.

[rippingthroughmetal]

@ericandtegan lol, I can do gutterals, and I can do it with my diaphragm. The only thing you really need to make the magic all work, is to have your throat moist (drink water, soda, or gatorade). Then you push down as you go out. If you can get your voice down far enough to where it's coming out from the point between your collar bones, it should automatically start vibrating, creating the gurgling sound. It does for me, anyway.

[ericandtegan]

@rippingthroughmetal Good luck trying to growl without your diaphragm. In fact, good luck doing anything metal with your voice without using it. (except shitty inhales)

[7dayspking]

@adamisossim gutturals and screams have nothing in common... other than the fact they use the diaphragm screams are just pretty much yells gutturals have no voice in them at all you'd be more correct if you said high shrieks are associated with gutturals as they don't use alot of voice either but that would be wrong to gutturals and growls are probably the closest same idea behind in but guttural as i said no voice pure diaphragm probably why it's hard to produce louder ones than screams

[7dayspking]

@Gabriel67ification ..... actually gutturals and growls use alot of diaphragm.... probably more than screams all vocals should be exhaled sometimes bands do inhales but they often either come out sound really weak and as i like to call them "air vocals" no actually grunt to them or you hear the weezing choking vocals that are inhaled gutturals probably use the most diaphragm they are very very straining and the hardest vocal to sustain for long amounts of time because of this

[7dayspking]

@rippingthroughmetal gutturals should not be inhaled you can tell when they are because you can here that choking or scratchy really dry sounding guttural instead of the normal well the only word i can think to describe with is "wet" hahaha guttural i am going to say that a proper guttural (not cupping your mic i mean proper full exhale guttural) can be one of the most straining and frustrating things to learn

[7dayspking]

@adamisossim gutturals are in no way screams... there closer to growls it's like a cross between a growl and a pig squeal it has elements of both but obviously mainly related to a growl

[adamisossim]

@Gabriel67ification No, you do use your diaphragm, unless you don't breathe while doing a growl, but all screaming no matter what, highs, mids, lows to gutterals, all need the diaphragm.