McConnell: Poll Showing People Support Public Option Is Misl

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[hellshade2]

what mcconnel is actually saying is he and other repubs don't give a damn about what the people want.....

[verstwo2]

you're wrong. 1st ..there isn't a final bill to read yet.

also, it wouldn't make people without insurance criminals since it would be a part of 'criminal' law. Uninsured would only have to pay a fine to cover their emergency health costs. I also don't see why having health insurance would require any more gov. involvement then there already is. Or why that is a bad thing. Insurance companies are currently one of the only industries that are exempt from anti-trust laws.

Idiot.

[45CaliberCure]

@verstwo2 "The Mafia by nature is self interested and the government by nature is publicly interested." And there you have your disconnect with reality in a single sentence. Nice job. What alternative universe do you live in whereby someone employed by government is given a pass because they are employed by government? I'm publicly interested as well. I would like to see these quislings publicly introduced to a nearly forgotten political punishment called "Musket to the Junk".

[somecomputergeek]

@45CaliberCure

I agree. Too many people are focused too much on the proposed goals of government and none of them bother to step back and take a look at the actual nature of government - institutionalized violence.

[45CaliberCure]

@somecomputergeek Statists, more often than not, willfully unencumbered by reality , maintain a facile and fervent support of the most extreme uses of coercion and violence by their chosen masters as long it is directed against their ideological enemies, and as long as it does not appear that their particular ox will be gored. Sadly, those politicians they worship will wipe their feet equally on the rights of useful idiots as well as responsible citizens. There lies true equality.

[jellygraph]

clearly polls are misleading when they don't conform to your opinions, but accurate when they do... *sigh*

[maskedphrogg]

No, it certainly isn't the government selling you insurance. And if we accept your example what I see is one needs to spend more than the rebate is worth to see the rebate. It's across the board so no particular insurance company benefits. What again was your point?

Seems to me McConnell is supporting your notion that the government shouldn't be diverting tax monies under a facade of doing something else.

Or do you not feel government should be transparent and stick to Constitutional guidelines?

[maskedphrogg]

Just because it's a hat doesn't mean you should prop one on your head.

[ClassicFIHD]

"They y subsidize the price as a tax rebate" For who? Give me the name of a public company. Law yes, that's understandable.

[ClassicFIHD]

LOL, like everyone watchs the spin doctors on the new. Fuuny how they take a poll about a public option and don't say public option. Sounds kinda like an assault weapons ban that has NO assault weapons in the ban. What ABC are you watching?

[somecomputergeek]

"What I said is; sometimes violence is necessary to enforce laws. "

Here is what you said in context:

"Why do you think the use or threat of violence the best way of paying for it? "

- I don't. But SOMETIMES it's the only way

Can you name ONE serial killer who has killed more innocent people than the tens of millions the US government has?

I'm not opposed to using violence against aggressive people. I just don't want to be force to PAY for their aggression.

[somecomputergeek]

It is about the SCOPE of the law. Right now, your are obligated to obey hundreds of thousands of laws that you have practically no say over. That's slavery, not civilization.

"Violence is only reasonable is the absence of any other option."

I agree. Why, then, do you support the state? The US government is the most violent institution on the planet.

The government is exempt in that you can defend yourself against their violent theft. This is not the case with any other entity.