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For those interested in this topic, I have just finished my 4th book on this entitled Lucifer - Father of Cain: http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/lucifer---father-of-cain/6559663

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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/FallenAngelsTV/2009/05/09/Interview-with-Dr-Joye...

Zen Garcia and Dr. Joye Pugh clarify what really happened in the garden and how 'eating of the fruit' resulted in Eve's pregnancy with Cain, the first born son of Lucifer.

In older versions of the Biblical Pentateuch, exclusions to Genesis 4:1 clarify that Cain was a child of the devil.

1: And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. - Genesis 4:1, KJV

And Adam knew his wife Eve, who was pregnant by Sammael [Satan], and she conceived and bare Cain, and he was like the heavenly beings, and not like earthly beings, and she said, I have gotten a man from the angel of the Lord." - Aramiac Targum, Targum of Jonathan to Genesis 4:1

"And Adam knew his wife Eve, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Cain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the angel of the Lord ..." - Palestinian Targum to Genesis 4:1

Explain this if I'm wrong - "XIII. I Now it was the sixth month with her, and behold Joseph came from his building, and he entered into his house and found her great with child. And he smote his face, and cast himself down upon the ground on sackcloth and wept bitterly, saying: With what countenance shall I look unto the Lord my God ? and what prayer shall I make concerning this maiden? for I received her out of the temple of the Lord my God a virgin, and have not kept her safe.

Who is he that hath ensnared me? Who hath done thisevil in mine house and hath defiled the virgin? Is not the story of Adam repeated in me? for as at the hour of his giving thanks the serpent came and found Eve alone and deceived her, so hath it befallen me also. And Joseph arose from off the sackcloth and called Mary and said unto her O thou that wast cared for by God, why hast thou done this? Thou hast forgotten the Lord thy God.

Why hast thou humbled thy soul, thou that wast nourished up in the Holy of Holies and didst receive food at the hand of an angel? 3 But she wept bitterly, saying: I am pure and I know not a man. And Joseph said unto her: Whence then is that which is in thy womb? and she said: As the Lord my God liveth, I know not whence it is come unto me." - Protevangelium of James

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[EndeavorFreedom]

@StreetInsurgent Part 2 " I want to make it known now that if this guy ever accuses me of stealing his work that I've never heard of him. Also the Lord gives us all similar revelation so that we can confirm each other. Out of the mouths of 2 to 3 witnesses shall the truth be established. Seems to me he's just jealous of Dr. Joye's success and can't bear the thought that the Lord would show somebody else similar discernment."

[EndeavorFreedom]

@StreetInsurgent I know about the accusations and have responded Part I "The Lord led me to a lot of these revelations many years ago not including the Prince William and antichrist stuff. But as far as the previous ages, Cain and his bloodline, the Lord showed me all of that through His word. What makes my work different from his is that I claim the fallen angels were here first before the creation of modern man."

[StreetInsurgent]

@EndeavorFreedom lol stop askin me stuff. i never said i disagree with the the theory; i'm just trying to get a broader perspective of it. Respect that. If i want a question answered then it doesn't mean you should respond with a question; this isn't a debate. No, i am not worthy enough to 'judge' her, don't pull that religious guilt on me lol; i simply said she is a plagiarist, i happen to know of someone who had this info b4 her and when she was confronted she claimed she doesn't use the net ?

[EndeavorFreedom]

@StreetInsurgent So you are worthy enough to judge Dr. Joye? As far as proof I've presented hundreds of pieces of information that present this possibility. The Lord also said that all things will be revealed and that He would pour dreams and visions onto the people. Besides this information helps one understand what Yahushuah spoke of in the NT. Answer why Cain is left out of Adam's lineage. why is his lineage in Genesis 4 and Adam's in Genesis 5? If you can't see this fine many do.

[StreetInsurgent]

@EndeavorFreedom no one arguin g. I want to get to the bottom of it aswell. Your friend is a plagiarist though. Why do you really on these other so called scriptures? What proof do you have that they were from the Creator and not the devil to misguide and confuse people? The many says that in the last days many with fall from their faith and it warns us of many false prophets. Answer that

[EndeavorFreedom]

@StreetInsurgent I already explained that Genesis 4:1 was mistranslated to hide this truth. Study of the Targums as well as all the other scriptures verifies this. Answer the questions about why Cain means acquired and why he's not in Adam's lineage? And what about Yahushuah's assertion that Cain's line was of the devil and John that he is of the wicked one. Argue with the Lord if you want I don't waste time trying to argue with others. I really don't care if you believe me or not.

[StreetInsurgent]

@EndeavorFreedom YOU STILL DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION! ADAM KNEW HIS WIFE AND SHE HAD CAIN - EXPLAIN THAT

[EndeavorFreedom]

@StreetInsurgent Is Cain listed anywhere in Adam's lineage? Why does his name mean acquired? Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. - John

He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. - Matthew

[StreetInsurgent]

@EndeavorFreedom thanx. i've read that. you didn't answer my question about Adam and Eve though. Nor did you answer about the other passages. Plus i'd like to add that i found Dr. Joye Pugh is a plagiarist. How do you defend that? Peace

[EndeavorFreedom]

@StreetInsurgent He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. - matthew 13

[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.