This Generation - Israel - will not pass away till all is fulfilled - Jacques More

This Generation in this famous passage is explained from the Greek GENEA's other use to mean a related group. This is seen through prophecy and context to refer to Israel as a people group: a race. It is the Jews who will remain until all these prophecies of Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 are fulfilled.

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[promisesrkept]

We are far apart in our interpretations of Scripture. I will leave you with an invitation to view one of the leading Preterist teachers/debaters. His name is Don K Preston and you'll find him here on YouTube. Thanks for the dicussion, it was very enjoyable. God bless you sir.

[gracetruthguy]

Hi prk,

Daniel is clear in that the Greek dynasties would be followed by the rule of iron which can easily be seen as the Romans and after them there would be those in the same region who rule with alliances "clay" mixed with "iron".

Since the Roman empire was at its greatest in the 3rd centrury AD the rule of 'iron' was in full sway well after 70AD and thus the Scripture tells us much needs to happen before the Antichrist and Jesus' return to govern the nations.

[promisesrkept]

@gracetruthguy I don't agree at all that the OC survived AD 70. Jesus came to tear down the dividing wall per Eph2. Heb 10:9 also describes the setting aside of the OC to establish the NC. Jews and Gentiles have only one way to God, through the Messiah Jesus. That's the gospel.

[gracetruthguy]

Hi prk,

Jesus is the only name by which we can be saved. Acts 4:12

But that is no help to the man born deaf and blind.

Nor to the one who never hears of Jesus.

"preaching the gospel and healing everywhere" Luke 9:6

This gospel did not mention Jesus or his death since they understood none of those things (Luke 18:34)

Peter tells us that Cornelius was accepted before he heard about Jesus (Acts 10:35)

How much more those of the natural tree who are faithful in all B4 them (Rom.2:9)

[promisesrkept]

Brother, I need to apologize for using the word "absurd" in a recent comment, and not just once but three times. I try my best to divorce my emotions from my defense of what I believe is truth, but my passion sometimes makes that difficult. Please forgive me.

[gracetruthguy]

Hi prk,

Forgiven :0)

This is a good time to mention:

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[promisesrkept]

God made sure the true temple of His eternal dwelling was under construction prior to AD 70 and the final destruction of the temple made with hands. "you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." (1 Peter 2:5 NASB)

[promisesrkept]

Another clear example of a first century fulfillment of the Olivet Discourse: ...when YOU (Peter, James, John and Andrew- first century generation) SEE all these things, recognize that HE (the Lord) IS NEAR, RIGHT AT THE DOOR. (Matthew 24:33 NASB) [James, who must have seen the signs of the Lord's soon return, writing to a first century audience]...the COMING of THE LORD IS NEAR...behold, the Judge IS STANDING RIGHT AT THE DOOR. (James 5:8, 9 NASB)

[promisesrkept]

If you allow the evidence to penetrate through years of tradition and error first century fulfillment is unavoidale.

[promisesrkept]

Evidence that the Olivet Discourse was being fulfilled in the first century: "And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened." (Matthew 24:22 NKJV; also Mk 13:20). "But this I say, brethren, the time has been shortened, so that from now on those who have wives should be as though they had none;" (1 Corinthians 7:29 NASB)

[promisesrkept]

First century Rome was the forth and final kingdom. God used that empire to destroy His harlot wife OC Israel. He then entered into covenant with spiritual Israel made up of the faithful, last days remnant, and the Gentiles.