October 2011 Members Arrested at Senate Offices

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  • @1775novten

    I'll agree with you on topics that don't deal with education. That's the one area Democrats are half decent on.

    And on the case, that's the power of the people when their eye is drawn to it. This happens in state boards around the country, constantly and it doesn't draw the attention of the locals at all. A national education board will have MUCH more public oversight. And deficiencies in education wouldn't be so terrible state to state.

  • @BusinessIDBAI Oh come on, Democrats are just as much of the problem as Republicans on Capital Hill - where they are bought and sold like baseball cards. Regarding your case law reference - the people saw it was crap and they sued the board to have it removed from its teachings and a Republican judge agreed. And then during the next elections all eight of the board members who supported it was not reelected. That's the power of the people.

  • @1775novten

    No, Republicans and corporate democrats pass shit like the Patriot Act.

    Look up Kitzmiller v Dover to see how state level education boards are morons.

  • @BusinessIDBAI No, it's not difficult for me to understand at all. I'm just having a hard time figuring out how the politicians and education boards at the State level are morons, but the politicians that are voted on by the States are some how educational savants. They are the same people. Congress can't handle balancing a simple damn checkbook, yet you want them to run your education? They pass bills like the Patriot Act that violate the Constitution, yet you want them to teach it? Logical?

  • @1775novten

    Right now, they deal with this no child left behind bullshit.

    My opinion of Education is that these moronic states should keep their fucking hands off it. It is MORE IMPORTANT than the individual state. It is an ABSOLUTE NATIONAL NECESSITY. There is absolutely NOTHING more important than education for a democracy, it is one of the THREE REQUIREMENTS.

    Is that difficult for you to understand?

  • @BusinessIDBAI Wait, so you're saying that the Department of Education does NOT decide what is taught in public schools? So what do they do, if not that?

    Nor do I understand how the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy was part of the Department of Education. However, I do have my own opinions on how it should be handled in the military - coming from a former Marine.

    Is your bottom line that you want more federal government control of everything and just make USA one big State?

  • @1775novten

    No, I think this a direct result from NOT having a Federal Education System. Our states CURRENTLY decide what they'll teach. They do that RIGHT NOW! How's that system working out for you? The last ATTEMPT at a national education policy was Don't Ask Don't Tell, and that was a crock of shit cooked up by conservative think tanks.

  • @BusinessIDBAI And you think this is a direct result of the Federal Education System? Meaning, you think the Federal government is now teaching its younger population to not support the current government decisions on wars and politics? If anything, wouldn't the Feds being making sure they justify their wars in the text books? Sounds like the exact opposite of what would happen.

  • @1775novten

    Actually, yes I am. Most of your parents and grandparents, statistically, watch Fox News. Most of them are politically uninformed. Most of them support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the War On Drugs. So yes, you're parents and grand parents, are likely to be morons. Just like everyone else's parents and grand parents are likely to be uninformed, undereducated morons with more opinions than facts.

  • @BusinessIDBAI And what do you think we did before the Department of Education? When did that even get started, like 1980? Are you suggesting that we were all knuckle draggers who were taught how to make magic potions, instead of real relevant subjects? Was the countries education really that screwed up before then? Are you meaning to tell me that my parents and grandparents wasted their money on their State ran educations? And that they are now blubbering ignorant idiots? I think not.

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