Robert Gibbs Laments Divisive Language Used By Republicans A

more at cspan.org

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• robert
• gibbs
• john
• boehner
• hitler
• protests
• health
• care
• reform
• language
• tea
• party

[gone2cast]

the American people should have the same health insurance that elected officials have since taxpayers are the ones paying for it.

[166beads]

this doesnt appear to be a desperate speach to me. Hes just saying that a lot of people make unjust and disturbing comparisons, I dont see how that could come across as desperate?

[obama200]

Not really. The US is good at discovering new drugs because the private market provides an environment where large profits can be made and this fuels further drug development.

Well the capitation system used to be used, but realize it has its own set of problems. Capitation will mainly lead to less care as doctors try not to spend all of their alloted money per patient. This could help trim excesses, but could also lead to too little care delivered.

[yes4me]

I hear you point of view: US is good at discovering new drugs, and too costly when developing drugs. And if I get you right, you think that drugs will decrease the cost of hospital.

But my original point was about hospital fees not medication. Even if you go to the hospital, you don't pay just for medication, and I think that fee system is horrible and need to be fixed... which is what democrats are trying to fix... but they failed imo.

[obama200]

Many independent people do not have sufficient capital to start a business on their own which is why people issue bonds and stock to investors. With fresh capital, the business can run smoothly.

[obama200]

Its not selling drugs thats the issue, its developing drugs. Wlamart and costco do not develop new drugs, they resell drugs that are developed by Pfizer, Lilly, etc. Its the drug companies' innovations with respect to the development on new drugs that America leads the world in. Many small businessmen can start up companies and develop new drugs. Happens all the time. And then usually the small businessman sells his business for 100's of millions of dollars.

[yes4me]

That's really good that we are good in one particular domain, research, but I was talking since the beginning about our health care system (i.e. hospital).

If you are talking about selling drugs, all I see is large companies (i.e. costco, wallgreen) selling drugs too. Independent citizens have no chance in business as they need to buy large quantity to lower the cost. In short, we are going into monopolization.

[obama200]

We are #1 in innovation in terms of new procedures/drugs/instruments. Maybe sometime we can have a discussion about the vast innovative drug industry of gov't run Cuba and North Korea.

The big problem is cost containment and having one government provider does not contain costs because there is no competition. Competition through private companies run by independent citizens is the way to bring down costs.

[yes4me]

Being the #1 country in cost is consider innovation? How is that supposed to be good? I like the republican idea of getting rid of the STATE regulation for selling plans across states line, with a one system health care system.

While you seem to dislike the government, I look at the healthcare like the police/fireman. They are services that we all need. The police/fireman used to be private companies but now I can go to any station if I need help. The same should be done for the hospitals.

[obama200]

We surely do lead the health care industry in terms of innovation. Maybe the best way to lower costs would be to get rid of government imposed restrictions on selling plans across state lines. The way it is now, governmental intervention is raising prices by stifling competition. Also, we have gov oversight to prevent fraudulent denial of claims. You have to understand that some claims are denied b/c patients try to fraud the insurance companies by waiting until they are sick to buy insurance.

[yes4me]

You are totally wrong. We have the most expensive system in the world not because it is great but because it sucks. And now the new system is even worse. From what I gather so far, we all required to get health insurance, but the health company can charge us any amount and deny us too even if we are insured. It is getting worse... not better. We are 37th in health care btw... we are NOT leading and never had been.

[obama200]

what? Republicans don't want competition via creation of more government (public option). Republicans want more competition by allowing private insurance companies to sell plans across state lines in a national marketplace.

The US has a very decent system and our health innovation leads the rest of the world.