Another TheAtheistAntidote Failure (and some thoughts on Plagiarism)

Brock cowardly removed my video (he claims I said something not nice about his wife, I didn't). So here's a link to his video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzecy3wld78

Brock is looking more and more like PCS 3.0. He stated "Subject matter found in the book What's so Great about Christianity." yet this is only glossing over the truth. He recites the original article almost verbatim and doesn't mention this. I even found evidence that his "The Apple Tree" story my have also been at least inspired by some one else.
Plagiarism is evidence that one is too lazy to think for themselves.

Original by Denish D'Souza:

http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2008/01/10/who-killed-slavery/

Brock's monologue on "Atheists know God exists!" is plagiarized from Doug Giles:

http://wntp.townhall.com/columnists/DougGiles/2007/05/13/atheists_better_pray...

The Apple Tree story:

http://anupr.blogspot.com/2005/12/are-women-like-apples.html

From Brock's video "THE ATHEIST FAIL!" is again almost a verbatim recitation of Denish D'Souza's argument "The Prime Mover":

http://moltenthought.blogspot.com/2007/06/prime-mover.html

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[Libertarianist]

Lincoln, a secularist, single handedly, freed most of the slaves. One of the few major political actions that can accurately be attributed to a president.

[Arkanix]

His pride?  Have you listened to your own Videos?? You Brock are solidly pretentious and really offensive.

[omegadoom37]

The first slave owner in America was a black in massachusetts which he got as indentured servants and when they escaped 1was given life for breaking contract by the courts the other extra time

[nelliediddle]

Bulimic! beautiful analogy!

[BillKiernan]

I guarantee Brock still plagiarizes everything he does; he's just getting better at mixing up the sentences and adding in a different word to make it less detectable.

[jouljert]

@SoCalAtheist ok. Here's an alternative model. see ?v=seAHybCIBzk

I don't dislike it emotionally. It just does not work for me at an intellectual level. Yes, we do live on the same planet and I do think that all life is to be respceted and cared for. But that is definitely different than saying that at the end of the day, i am no different from an earthworm.I do believe that of all the creatures on the earth mankind has a calling to manage and care for creation.

[SoCalAtheist]

@jouljert You're right, the lion probably doesn't "feel" guilty. Neither do sociopaths (their neurology prevents them from having a strong emotional response to the suffering of others).

Of course a human hunter also has very little guilt over killing their prey. So it actually looks like the human hunter and the lion have something in common regarding their emotional attachment to their prey. Kin selection actually deals with this type of issue.

[SoCalAtheist]

@jouljert Hm, you're speaking of the theory of evolution as though it's some alternative religious story to be picked at the whim of ones emotions. It isn't. It's a descriptive, explanatory model like relativity, or quantum mechanics, or Bohr's atomic model. Your emotional dislike for it has no impact on it's validity or the truths that we can derive from it's application.

Also; no it isn't sad that all organisms are at the same evolutionary level. No more sand that we live on the same planet.

[jouljert]

@SoCalAtheist That's exactly why evolution doesn't quite cut it for me. "There's no absolute or ultimate why we do so" We are reduced to a bunch of reflexive electronic impulses. Ok. we're all from the same bush. All's equal. We're all on the same level. The lion with the squid, with the earthworm with the squirrel, with the man.Equals. How sad is that? Man has a need for the transcendant that evolution cannot account for.

[jouljert]

@SoCalAtheist To put it simply, would you go to sit next to a lion? I hope not. But if a lion mauled you to death. It gets shot, maybe. But it does not have to feel guilty. It does not need to be tried. That's the evolutionary heritage that you were talking about. Now if a man does the same, all kinds of philosophical questions pop up. Like... Why? The victims don't deserve this... What kind of a monster is he?...

[SoCalAtheist]

@jouljert we as a species, and all other species on the planet, have a drive to survive and reproduce because of history of our evolutionary heritage. There's no ultimate or absolute why we do so, only the fact that we inherited that drive, like our eye color or blood type.

As for us being apes of higher order, that's false. All existing species are at the same level on the evolutionary bush. We're all survivors.

But true, 99+% of all organisms that ever existed have gone extinct.

[SoCalAtheist]

@jouljert Not all cultures have a court of law (think small aboriginal tribes). And most of us have no need of it for most, if not all our lives. But it is a product of our social complexity (which is greater than other organisms). However, this is just a matter of degree.

As for our species viability, again the theory of evolution provides the explanation. If we didn't have such a drive to exist we would be extinct. Basically, the ancestors that worked hard to survive and reproduce is why...