Mountain goats, best ever death metal band

2nd encore at bush hall london 2005, contains smallest guitar jump in the world

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[hanakuso100]

i watch it back and its out of sync, what i do? out of sync for any body else? david

[causticacrostik]

Whether you agree with his choice to end the song with "Hail Satan" or not, don't confuse his creation of art with personal opinion. He's using "Hail Satan (a common phrase in death metal music) as a powerful and elegant way of celebrating what was dear to the kids in the song: the inspiration, passion and connection they felt to an art form - deathmetal - a silly genre to many, but that doesn't take away from it importance to the characters in the song or it's message to us as listeners. <3TMG

[blithium]

*sigh* There's something about a room full of people screaming Hail Satan that makes me smile inside :)

Also, for the morons: This is not death metal. It's about death metal.

[tracehazarrrrd]

@t4ll3y just saying and not replying, how droll.

also, it appears to me that this band is far more pitchforkesque than nmh. bad lyrics, bad music ideas, put to acoustic guitar to up the hipness. small band with bad ideas praised to the sky because they are obscure, as well. also, the influence from nmh, to me, seems obvious; with a little bit of belle and sebastian and celtic acoustic-pub stuff. is nmh not a good measuring stick, then?

[tracehazarrrrd]

@AnonymousAnemone actually, i was just in ireland recently and this really sounds like good pub music to me now, although it is still a bit weak in the songwriter category. I guess sometimes it just takes context.

[AnonymousAnemone]

@tracehazarrrrd No, it wasn't their bad period. In fact, it was a golden age of Mountain Goats music that many people love. By the way, John Darnielle (the lead singer of the Mountain Goats) doesn't try to hide the fact that he's been influenced by NMH. He covers their songs sometimes live. And by the way, MUSIC IS A FUCKING MATTER OF OPINION. If you can't grasp that idea, you shouldn't even be listening to any of it.

[sonorpaiste702]

@MorkaGraven I was talking about the context of the song, not the actual Metal culture. I know what the culture is like, I've been involved in it and raised with it.

I think I could have worded my comment better though, because I wasn't calling Death Metal a whole outsider thing, because most people tend to stick with it their whole life if they actually get into it.

[blithium]

@MorkaGraven Good thing there's a song full of things to support it, then :)

[MorkaGraven]

@sonorpaiste702 Pfft. "Outsider stage"? I think someone like Gaahl (Formerly of Gorgoroth) would claim your argument silly. Some people start off in metal during their teenage years and keep with it until their 40's+.

I think Varg Vikernes celebrated his 39th Birthday last year and he's still releasing new material. This "outsider stage", although I understand your point, and that it may apply to other subcultures, when used with metalheads can have poor accuracy.

[MorkaGraven]

@blithium "Hail Satan" is the most unintelligent thing to say if there is nothing to support it. Just think of those 12982734289163 norse-core bands whose lyrics repeatedly feature things along the lines of "Hail Satan, he's so evil and awesome, Hail Satan, Fuck christians up the ass"

[sonorpaiste702]

@causticacrostik To be honest, Hail Satan is not very popular in Death Metal music. Darnielle just uses it because it fits the context of the song which features misguided youth that don't feel they fit in and find refuge in something they don't really know about, but really passionately believe in. It really personifies that sort of outsider stage that a lot of us went through in school. The sort of thing we look back on and go "well that was silly".

[t4ll3y]

you can't play an acoustic guitar without sounding like NMH apparently.

Go back to reading pitchfork, faggot.

[NativeMetalVT]

@dadaproletariat I've had the same issue... probably because of all the actual videos of Sarcofago playing live. That's another one of my favorite Mountain Goats songs.