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DEBATE: 2 Timothy 2:24-26, Can Sinners Themselves Repent or Does God "Grant" Them Repentance?

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Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers/Christian Debater (YouTube channel: CANSWERSTV, websites: BIBLEQUERY.ORG, HISTORYCART.COM & MUSLIMHOPE.COM) debates Steve McCalip, author & producer of "KingJamesVideoMan," on the subject of WHO did Jesus die for. Bob L. Ross, leading publisher of Charles Haddon Spurgeon (please check official website: PILGRIMPUBLICATIONS.COM), is the moderator. Educational backgrounds of debaters: Wessels- Bachelor of Science in Advertising from the University of Texas at Austin, completed extension course taught by Dr. J.I. Packer of Regent College, Vancouver, Canada, studied virtually every book or tape produced by Walter Martin of the Christian Research Institute & Dr. R.C. Sproul of Ligonier Ministries, worked with Pilgrim Publications (C.H. Spurgeon) since 1990, attended Dayspring Fellowship of Austin, Texas (Pastor Jackson Boyett, www.dayspringchapel.org) since 1982. McCalip- Bachelor's degree from Baylor University, 2 Master's Degrees in Education from the University of Houston. Theological background: Wessels- Classical Protestant Reformed Doctine, Affirms the Trinity (Father , Son & Holy Spirit), McCalip- Arminian Doctrine, Denial of the Trinity, Affirms King James Bible only. A popular book out is entitled "History's Greatest Lies;" although this book doesn't mention the following it should have: Darwin's Evolution Theory, Global Warming, Muhammad was a prophet of God, the only true "church" is headed by a Roman Pope, etc. Another "greatest lie" would be to say Jesus died for people He did not indeed die for. There are only 3 possibilities: 1. Christ died to save all men therefore all are saved 2. Christ died to save no one in particular (men then must save themselves) or 3. Christ died to save a certain number (who God then actively saves) from eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire. This debate has been going on for centuries & in recent times has had more notoriety because of a book written by Dave Hunt of "The Berean Call" entitled, "What Love Is This?," which makes many of the same emotional Arminian arguments as Steve McCalip in this debate. Multnomah Publishers also produced a book entitled "Debating Calvinism" between Hunt & James R. White of Alpha & Omega Ministries. Ergun Caner of Islam fame has also taken issue with "The Five Points of Calvinism," namely: 1. Total Depravity, 2. Unconditional Election, 3. Limited Atonement, 4. Irresistible Grace, & 5. Perseverance of the Saints. The real question, ""Is God sovereign over man or is man's free will sovereign over God & His purposes?" Who is REALLY in control?

This is just a single episode of a 24 part (10 minute presentation) debate. To see this same 4 hour debate in 1 hour segments as it was originally recorded, copy & paste the following title into the YOUTUBE search box, "DID JESUS DIE FOR EVERYBODY WHO EVER LIVED OR NOT? DEBATE."

Please type "LARRY WESSELS" in the YOUTUBE search box for an array of various subject topic videos (over 350).

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  • Calvinism is demonic period..predestination is ignorant

  • @DennisInDeltona So you're saying the apostle Paul was "ignorant", wow, you know more than the Bible! Paul writes in Ephesians 1: 4ff: "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy & without blame before him in love having PREDESTINATED us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will." Eph. 1:11: "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being PREDESTINATED according to the purpose".

  • Why doe someone have to argue over 'truth' in the Bible? There are some good bits in it, but finding them is like looking for candy in a colostomy bag. Genesis is gibberish, Revelations is so bizarre it should carry a health warning, and everything in between is pretty much in between.

    The fact that the Bible is so open to interpretation persuades me that it is not divinely inspired, but the work(s) of men.

  • I understand where you are coming from Gorteenminogue & there are a whole lot of people in this world who would agree with you. This takes us back to the subject of this debate series which you are now commenting on. This debate is on the "Limited Atonement" of Jesus Christ which basically says that Jesus did not come to die for everybody but just a few of his chosen people. The Bible says only a few will be saved from hell (Matthew 7:13-29, Mark 10, Romans 9) but most will not understand.

  • "... two bald men arguing over a comb."

  • Gorteenminogue somebody has to argue over the truth of what the Bible says since that is what the Bible itself says to do (Jude 3, 1 Tim 6:12, Phil 1:17, Titus 1:9, Revelation 2:2, 1 Peter 3:15, 1 Thessalonians 5:21, Acts 18:28, etc.). A cursory reading of the Book of Acts & the epistles reveals that a substantial percentage of it deals with a proclaimation of truth in opposition to falsehoods. When combined with the Old Testament & the rest of the NT "arguing" is a must. See BibleQuery org.

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  • @DennisInDeltona you dont understand calvinism if you say its demonic,,,let me ask you did Jesus die for satanists? yes,,,he died for all,,the sacrifice was sufficient ,but not all are going to accept him,,,,so he died for all but only some will come to him the ones he draws,,,its says noone comes to the father unless he is drawn,,,so GOD draws the ones he chooses,,,are you saying that GOD is being unfair by saving only some? so why not draw all,,,bc he is doing it to glorify himself

  • Calvinism is demonic period

  • the guy with the overhead isnt looking at the context of 1st corinthians. when it says our, it doesnt mean everyone because the letter to corinth was written to those who were sanctified already. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "2 To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours". its only written to those who are saved

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