2011 - And God Created Sinners

God as the Original Sinner? Why did God create temptations if man were not to fall into them? Why did god create the sin and the sinners? Does the sin justify the sinning? Who is actually responsible for this world? Is god merely a construction of the human mind made-up to project responsibility outside ourselves?

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Facts on original sin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin
Original sin[1] is, according to a theological doctrine, humanity's state of sin resulting from the Fall of Man.[2] This condition has been characterized in many ways, ranging from something as insignificant as a slight deficiency, or a tendency toward sin yet without collective guilt, referred to as a "sin nature", to something as drastic as total depravity or automatic guilt of all humans through collective guilt.[3]

The doctrine is not found in Judaism,[4] and its scriptural foundation is in the New Testament teaching of Paul the Apostle. (Romans 5:12-21 and 1 Corinthians 15:22)[2] It began to be developed by the 2nd-century Bishop of Lyon Irenaeus in his controversy with the dualist Gnostics.
In the theology of the Catholic Church, original sin is regarded as the general condition of sinfulness, that is (the absence of holiness and perfect charity) into which humans are born, distinct from the actual sins that a person commits. This teaching explicitly states that "original sin does not have the character of a personal fault in any of Adam's descendants".[5] In other words, human beings do not bear any "original guilt" from Adam's particular sin, which is his alone. The prevailing view, also held in Eastern Orthodoxy, is that human beings bear no guilt for the sin of Adam.

Orthodoxy prefers using the term "ancestral sin",[6][7] which indicates that "original sin is hereditary. It did not remain only Adam and Eve's. As life passes from them to all of their descendants, so does original sin "[8] In this quotation, "original sin" is used not of the personal sin of Adam, which is his alone and is not transmitted, but in reference to the "distortion of the nature of man", which is inherited.

An important exposition of the belief of Eastern Christians identifies original sin as physical and spiritual death, the spiritual death being the loss of "the grace of God, which quickened (the soul) with the higher and spiritual life".[9] Others see original sin also as the cause of actual sins: "a bad tree bears bad fruit" (Matthew 7:17, NIV), although, in this view, original and actual sin may be difficult to distinguish.[10]

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[metalsusa1]

A perfect deity created man knowing they would sin while simultaneously creating the Law sin = death. Man didn't fall they were pushed, set up to become slaves begging for mercy to a deity who knew the outcome before the start.

Our free will doesn't apply to a deity who can't be surprised by our thoughts and actions. According to the Bible nothing is outside the knowledge of God including the choices we make. Choices he knew would send us to hell before he created us.

There is no other way.

[annabrixthomsen]

@metalsusa1 - What you are describing is not perfection - it is psychopathy. Thus god is a psychopath.

[rockluva4eva]

what i thought was that God gave us free will and that God put that fruit there to see what we would do.Im wondering if this was just an idea of yours,is it?

[annabrixthomsen]

@rockluva4eva - God then more like a curious child and as such not something to be worshiped or followed blindly. If that what was God did, then he was not very all seeing or a powerful creator - because then he would have seen the implications of his actions - the world that is manifested today where children are being raped and billions of people are existing in starvation. The point inevitably ends with the fact that we are required to stand self-responsible for the world that is here.

[manowar40]

Anna, If I shaved off all my hair and went vegan would you marry me:) Just kidding!! This video is my favorite. Thanks

[annabrixthomsen]

@manowar40 - Except for the fact that I am neither shaved nor vegan. lol - Thanks for all the support though!

[Avery7098]

YES !

[Uriel1816]

Interesting ideas about God and the idea of sin.

I think the idea of sin is a construct of the material mind of humans.

[annabrixthomsen]

@matrix1920 God is a scapegoat we as humans have created in abdication of self-responsibility for this world.

[matrix1920]

Are you a christian believer?

Do you believe in the garden , and GOD is a parent?